[2008-06-20 16:22:21] [INFO] Now logging to . [2008-06-20 16:22:21] [INFO] Channel view for ``#baka-trio'' opened. [2008-06-20 16:22:22] -->| YOU (drake-n) have joined #baka-trio [2008-06-20 16:22:22] =-= Topic for #baka-trio is ``Word Count: How much does it matter? - Check out our first log on http://real-life.animerd2k2.net/readme/channel.htm'' [2008-06-20 16:22:22] =-= Topic for #baka-trio was set by lordcloudx on Friday, June 20, 2008 1:48:18 AM [2008-06-20 16:22:22] *ChanServ* [#baka-trio] [#baka-trio] Welcome to #baka-trio. The Visual Novel developer's skill workshop channel. http://real-life.animerd2k2.net/readme/channel.htm [2008-06-20 16:22:22] === #baka-trio http://real-life.animerd2k2.net [2008-06-20 16:22:22] [INFO] This channel requires that you have registered and identified yourself with the network's nickname registration services (e.g. NickServ). Please see the documentation of this network's nickname registration services that should be found in the MOTD (/motd to display it). [2008-06-20 16:25:32] Oh well [2008-06-20 16:25:36] back to the topic [2008-06-20 16:25:43] WC [2008-06-20 16:25:47] me and ren have dissenting opinions on the subject [2008-06-20 16:25:54] kinda [2008-06-20 16:25:57] hmm [2008-06-20 16:25:59] though we don't really disagree [2008-06-20 16:26:32] Hime pretty much has the same opinion as me [2008-06-20 16:27:02] though I'm more against the guys that push other ppl to make 200k games [2008-06-20 16:27:23] especially during the "Great OELVN Race" [2008-06-20 16:27:27] i agree whole heartedly with that [2008-06-20 16:27:30] which is over now, thankfully [2008-06-20 16:27:33] it's one thing to aim for a million words [2008-06-20 16:27:38] it's another to push others to do the same [2008-06-20 16:27:43] mm... [2008-06-20 16:28:12] It was that period that inspired this article http://animerd2k2.net/foelvn.htm [2008-06-20 16:28:21] Myself, I've said the estimate for TeraMura's wordcount is 150-200k words, so I don't know if I could be counted as one of those persons in a way [2008-06-20 16:28:30] no you're not [2008-06-20 16:28:37] you're just doing this for your own project [2008-06-20 16:28:41] that's just fine [2008-06-20 16:28:49] Though I'm not AIMING for that amount - it's an estimate based on what has been finished this far and how big the unfinished part is compared to that [2008-06-20 16:28:53] mm... I hope so [2008-06-20 16:28:56] It becomes annoying when you try to push your ideas on other ppl. [2008-06-20 16:28:58] he's against those who look down on shorter projects, Hime [2008-06-20 16:29:11] Yeah... [2008-06-20 16:29:11] yah, that's it [2008-06-20 16:29:25] sometimes I have trouble saying things directly :P [2008-06-20 16:29:41] most times... [2008-06-20 16:29:42] ahahaha [2008-06-20 16:30:22] I'm very bat at that ^^; [2008-06-20 16:30:28] I'm against fuffa, but it's an Italian term, damnit [2008-06-20 16:30:45] Coz it's not like I haven't written a longer story. It's just that my long story was a fanfic. [2008-06-20 16:30:47] Especially in two cases: In English, and with people I don't consider very close to me [2008-06-20 16:31:35] In English, I'm afraid that the way I state things might sound too hard, rude or merciless [2008-06-20 16:31:50] ehe, Ren said something like that earlier [2008-06-20 16:32:08] Whereas with people I don't consider to be close to me, I don't think they care about me, and so I try to bother them as little as possible [2008-06-20 16:32:11] btw, what is fuffa? [2008-06-20 16:32:13] eh, yes [2008-06-20 16:32:15] uhm [2008-06-20 16:32:20] By trying to be as polite/subtle as possible [2008-06-20 16:32:35] I can say that the latter does not apply to this channel :3 [2008-06-20 16:32:41] it's slang, it's a term you use specifically for songs made to fill a cd that has only two or three worthy tunes [2008-06-20 16:32:55] filler songs? [2008-06-20 16:32:57] Ah, I know what you mean [2008-06-20 16:33:04] That's a good way to say it indeed [2008-06-20 16:33:07] it means those could have 12/13 fuffa songs [2008-06-20 16:33:20] yeah, but it's a sillier term [2008-06-20 16:33:38] it has negative connotations in Italian? [2008-06-20 16:34:01] yeah, it isn't a bad word, but it's sarcastic, and as I said it's slang [2008-06-20 16:34:13] ok [2008-06-20 16:34:26] anyway, I don't mind long descriptions, if they're meant to be there [2008-06-20 16:34:47] ah, ok. [2008-06-20 16:34:47] mmm... [2008-06-20 16:34:51] I just want to kill myself when they're so painfully and obviously added for the sake of word count [2008-06-20 16:34:59] lord of the rings is a good example [2008-06-20 16:35:09] (not to derail but... good news?? ---- Mirror Moon has completed the translation of Heaven's Feel, the last and final route of Fate/ stay night. [2008-06-20 16:35:09] Editing is currently about 40%.) [2008-06-20 16:35:09] there was some kind of visual novel like that, online [2008-06-20 16:35:11] the descriptions are looong [2008-06-20 16:35:21] I read that! [2008-06-20 16:35:39] I heard it's the best arc. [2008-06-20 16:35:40] on visualnews [2008-06-20 16:35:42] a long time ago [2008-06-20 16:35:52] i hear it's pretty good too [2008-06-20 16:35:55] I'll have to try it... [2008-06-20 16:35:58] but... ubw was just too awesome [2008-06-20 16:35:59] not saying what year. [2008-06-20 16:36:12] I still feel bitter about UBW ;_; [2008-06-20 16:36:17] Rin... Oh Rin... [2008-06-20 16:36:27] uh oh [2008-06-20 16:36:42] someone who doesn't seem to be with us wouldn't like where this is going :3 [2008-06-20 16:37:01] ? [2008-06-20 16:37:06] hee hee! [2008-06-20 16:37:13] (But Heaven's Feel getting done is good news - because when it has been translated and people have finished and discussed it, the F/SN boom will probably calm down a little.) [2008-06-20 16:37:16] I mean FIA. [2008-06-20 16:37:31] Now that you mention it, I wonder where he is :o [2008-06-20 16:37:35] cloudy, do you have plans to trim the logs to actual on topic discussion? or just gonna keep 'em posted as is? [2008-06-20 16:37:36] no, I was wondering what UBW was [2008-06-20 16:37:47] trim em [2008-06-20 16:38:04] I was thinking of doing that for last night's log [2008-06-20 16:38:08] but I'm lazy :3 [2008-06-20 16:38:13] I noticed [2008-06-20 16:38:15] it's fine to be lazy [2008-06-20 16:38:21] i was just curious if it was gonna stay that way [2008-06-20 16:38:27] Naw [2008-06-20 16:38:44] Also... [2008-06-20 16:38:55] I planned to give away the ftp password for that site [2008-06-20 16:38:58] to everyone in here [2008-06-20 16:39:00] You aren't going to "advertise" the logs very much, right? [2008-06-20 16:39:08] Hime: nope [2008-06-20 16:39:14] let people find it themselves [2008-06-20 16:39:16] That's good [2008-06-20 16:39:26] brb [2008-06-20 16:39:42] I'm fine if they're there and people can find them, but if you'd direct people to read those, I'd like my words being censored a little more [2008-06-20 16:39:42] I set up an account for that subdomain [2008-06-20 16:39:51] If not even my whole nick and any hints to it [2008-06-20 16:40:03] Ok, hime [2008-06-20 16:40:11] I could just replace all instances of hime [2008-06-20 16:40:16] But if it's like it is now, it's good :3 [2008-06-20 16:40:20] with a nick of your choosing [2008-06-20 16:40:38] Well, then you should censor anything hinting at it (Nattsu and so on) too, but no need really [2008-06-20 16:40:46] well then... have we discussed the word-count issue enough now? [2008-06-20 16:41:57] sure [2008-06-20 16:41:58] i'd like to weigh in on the topic at hand a bit, once i get my words and thoughts straight [2008-06-20 16:41:58] Besides, one topic a day sounds good to me [2008-06-20 16:42:05] ok [2008-06-20 16:42:09] Otherwise you'll regret missing a day of conversation more [2008-06-20 16:42:24] maybe I should post a little log of what you missed [2008-06-20 16:42:50] (but first, i do wanna say, you have my permission to keep or dismiss anything i say form the logs... and pin it to my name... i won't hide from my words! but if you find them too off-topic, feel free to cut them) [2008-06-20 16:50:57] uh-oh [2008-06-20 16:51:15] I hope it won't kill your connection or anything... [2008-06-20 16:53:57] Gah, I'm strangely down tonight :/ [2008-06-20 16:54:18] well, i better get to it [2008-06-20 16:54:39] time for drake's on-the-fence indecisive ego-centric opinions on word count: [2008-06-20 16:55:31] (also, i still don't have my words right, so i might be a bit directionless here) [2008-06-20 16:56:00] i think word count is both important and not [2008-06-20 16:56:25] it's easy to say "well, it's probably something you need to account for on a per-case basis", but that's what i feel [2008-06-20 16:56:41] one thing i do disagree with is going big for the sake of earning bragging rights [2008-06-20 16:56:49] that's just plain stupid, to be honest [2008-06-20 16:57:09] and at the same time, as a game /player/ as much as a game maker, i would still like to play longer games, get committed to longer stories [2008-06-20 16:57:29] =-= Kik|Away is now known as Kikered_ [2008-06-20 16:57:29] so in the end, i could even ignore the motivation, however immature, if i get the chance to play a longer game [2008-06-20 16:57:44] but that's not to say that BIG is always WIN [2008-06-20 16:57:51] that's pretty far from the truth [2008-06-20 16:58:07] as much as i'd like bigger stories, i'd also like really really good smaller stories too [2008-06-20 16:58:30] so i guess, as a player, i want quality before length [2008-06-20 16:58:39] but if i get quality, i do kinda want more of it [2008-06-20 16:59:00] as a game /maker/ my opinion is even more jumbled [2008-06-20 16:59:15] for things like EV and Araiah, i wanted them to be big [2008-06-20 16:59:39] because I thought not "bigger is better", but "these kind of stories are a little more subtle... things take time to develop" [2008-06-20 16:59:54] and so, sure i employed filler at times, and long boring passages at others [2008-06-20 17:00:05] and really really long run on sentences every screen of narration [2008-06-20 17:00:33] but it was for a slightly different reason than you'll find most people aiming for a million words to have [2008-06-20 17:00:48] i wanted a slow pace, and one (bad) way to do that is more words [2008-06-20 17:01:00] thing changed rather dramatically during Starlit Sky though [2008-06-20 17:01:07] my priorities did a complete 180 [2008-06-20 17:01:20] instead of long and slow paced, i needed to be as concise and cheap with my words as possible [2008-06-20 17:01:31] things had to get done, /now/, and we had to move to the next scene [2008-06-20 17:01:55] -->| Samu-kun (i=0ccf186d@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-49987785e4c21139) has joined #baka-trio [2008-06-20 17:02:02] Helloo everyone. :3 [2008-06-20 17:02:03] my reason behind this isn't so noble though... i wasn't sure i could finish a long story at that point... so i had to move to the short end of the spectrum [2008-06-20 17:02:28] hi Samu [2008-06-20 17:02:31] and well, somehow i managed to get exactly the results i wanted, and fortunately enough, others spotted that exact aim [2008-06-20 17:02:40] (Hi, Samu, Drake, Hime, Ren =3) [2008-06-20 17:02:46] i got a number of comments about how concise and how good a /short/ story SS was [2008-06-20 17:03:10] so in this way word count was important in a different way [2008-06-20 17:03:16] Hi, Samu-kun :3 [2008-06-20 17:03:19] not to go big, but stay as small as possible [2008-06-20 17:03:46] (and having an estimated word count is a good way to have a sense of your scope) [2008-06-20 17:03:53] ...and... uhm... the end [2008-06-20 17:04:12] *claps* ^_^; [2008-06-20 17:04:15] (and hey samu and kikered) [2008-06-20 17:14:54] I'm overly social today or something... ':D [2008-06-20 17:15:00] I've got to go now, goodnight everyone :3 [2008-06-20 17:15:05] Later, Ren [2008-06-20 17:16:30] Guess I could continue on the topic with my two lowest-denomination coins... =P [2008-06-20 17:17:08] |<-- xRENx has left irc.freenode.net (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [2008-06-20 17:17:41] For playing games, word count is generally irrelevant to me. [2008-06-20 17:18:12] Mmm... I don't really expect to play an epic free game... soo... [2008-06-20 17:18:54] If I'm hooked, I won't really notice length - as long as a relatively coherent story is told, I'll be satisfied in the end. =P [2008-06-20 17:19:13] mmm, that's true :o [2008-06-20 17:21:55] And if the quality is good (i.e. not many wasted words), then it's extra win. =P [2008-06-20 17:23:12] Honestly, lengthy descriptions on common things don't work too well for me, but it's bearable for a good story. [2008-06-20 17:24:12] In a way though, it can be used to convey how the narrator sees things... [2008-06-20 17:24:27] mm.. [2008-06-20 17:24:55] For example, Blackiris usually narrates in long, descriptive sentences with amusing analogies in True Rememberance. =P [2008-06-20 17:25:13] And La goes with curt sentences. [2008-06-20 17:25:31] Abrupt, etc. [2008-06-20 17:26:03] When it comes to writing, I try to get away with as few words as possible. =P [2008-06-20 17:26:04] mm.. [2008-06-20 17:26:24] Mainly because I'm not particularly good at mincing words. [2008-06-20 17:26:33] Although laziness probably has something to do with it, too. ;P [2008-06-20 17:27:04] Well, it's usually a good way, I think :3 [2008-06-20 17:28:14] I'd also feel guilty if people felt like their time was wasted, too. >> [2008-06-20 17:28:24] impossible [2008-06-20 17:28:29] i /adore/ Quine [2008-06-20 17:28:39] and i rarely use the word "adore" because it sounds kinda fruity [2008-06-20 17:28:45] Thank ya kindly =) [2008-06-20 17:31:23] Well, that's pretty much all I've got on the matter. [2008-06-20 17:32:10] My current project is taking longer (to finish). =P [2008-06-20 17:36:09] what's the /shortest/ game in the forums at the moment? [2008-06-20 17:36:56] Good question... [2008-06-20 17:36:59] Perhaps Shinsei? [2008-06-20 17:37:04] I haven't played all the latest ones, so I'm not sure. [2008-06-20 17:37:16] sake-bento's 'Ripples' was pretty short and sweet =P [2008-06-20 17:37:19] i'd like to write an even /shorter/ story [2008-06-20 17:37:23] just to prove i can! [2008-06-20 17:37:27] mwuhahahahahahahahahahaha! [2008-06-20 17:37:30] Timmy? ;P [2008-06-20 17:37:43] i'll subvert the ambitions of the kiddies! [2008-06-20 17:37:54] and laugh, amused, manaically [2008-06-20 17:38:14] pah, the forums is too small scope [2008-06-20 17:38:22] I have to beat Hemingway's 6 word story! [2008-06-20 17:38:46] o.o [2008-06-20 17:40:24] *ahem* [2008-06-20 17:40:36] 5 word story, by DrakeNavarone [2008-06-20 17:40:40] This Short Story Is Awesome! [2008-06-20 17:40:45] do i win? [2008-06-20 17:43:43] ^^; [2008-06-20 17:44:55] that isn't a very clear answer [2008-06-20 17:46:20] It's 5 words, but a story... [2008-06-20 17:47:12] Hm. [2008-06-20 17:47:17] We need more conversation, people! [2008-06-20 17:47:34] XP [2008-06-20 17:47:36] I demand it. >:3 [2008-06-20 17:47:52] Please excuse me for being such a poor conversationalist =3 [2008-06-20 17:47:53] well, you could argue that Hemingway's six word story isn't really a story [2008-06-20 17:47:58] but it is damn good for only six words [2008-06-20 17:48:15] Well, that kind of depends on how you define a story [2008-06-20 17:48:35] What is it? =O [2008-06-20 17:48:52] (working off of memory here, so it's not an exact quote) [2008-06-20 17:48:58] For sale: Baby shoes, never worn [2008-06-20 17:49:15] I think it's "used" (not that it matters) [2008-06-20 17:50:04] "For sale: Baby shoes, Never worn."[44] [2008-06-20 17:50:15] lifted from the wiki page, if you trust wikipedia anyway [2008-06-20 17:50:34] Okay :3 [2008-06-20 17:50:45] I guess my source wasn't exact then [2008-06-20 17:50:47] and on that note, my memory isn't so bad [2008-06-20 17:51:40] I'm sorry if I sounded like I doubted it... [2008-06-20 17:51:58] I just remembered it wrong and said it without further thinking [2008-06-20 17:52:14] no no [2008-06-20 17:52:18] i mean nothing by it either [2008-06-20 17:52:32] Ah, okay ^^; [2008-06-20 17:52:34] it's just that it's my only claim that i can say i have completely memorized at least one story [2008-06-20 17:52:37] word for word [2008-06-20 17:52:42] :D [2008-06-20 17:52:45] Haha [2008-06-20 17:52:54] all the others are too long ;__; [2008-06-20 17:53:44] yeah... [2008-06-20 17:54:46] Hmm, I wonder if I should continue writing that weird piece [2008-06-20 17:55:25] which? [2008-06-20 17:55:28] that bathing suit one? [2008-06-20 17:55:45] (and that's a weird way to refer to it... shows you where my priorities are) [2008-06-20 17:55:54] Not that one [2008-06-20 17:56:05] how's /that one/ then? [2008-06-20 17:57:02] I'm trying to focus on TeraMura at the moment on the VN department [2008-06-20 17:57:07] in. [2008-06-20 17:57:27] okay, but you haven't dropped it yet, right? [2008-06-20 17:57:49] No :# [2008-06-20 17:57:50] * :3 [2008-06-20 17:58:13] The little thing I'm writing right now isn't a VN, and is mostly written for theraphy purposes [2008-06-20 17:58:16] |<-- Samu-kun has left irc.freenode.net ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [2008-06-20 17:58:46] -->| Samu-kun (i=0ccf186d@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e8032a473f106ac9) has joined #baka-trio [2008-06-20 17:58:49] I started it a couple of nights ago and it's based on my own life [2008-06-20 18:00:20] ooh [2008-06-20 18:03:27] That doesn't make it interesting though :D [2008-06-20 18:03:36] Oh, it does ;P [2008-06-20 18:03:39] sure it does [2008-06-20 18:04:01] i mean, i'm not a finnish girl, so it'd at least be an experience to read... if you ever care to share [2008-06-20 18:04:24] Ack, I'm afraid it doesn't tell too much about our culture... A little, though [2008-06-20 18:04:30] Mostly negative things ':D [2008-06-20 18:04:38] culture doesn't matter as much as the perspective [2008-06-20 18:04:59] i mean, you won't be able to tell, but you (should) have your culture ingrained in you [2008-06-20 18:05:17] so it'll sneak by without you even noticing, perhaps even in just the phrasings of sentences [2008-06-20 18:05:43] Well, I guess it's kind of true :o [2008-06-20 18:06:03] i'm sure my "proud to be an american"-istic ego leaks through every now and then [2008-06-20 18:06:11] especially when i hammer on enerccio for living in the middle of nowhere [2008-06-20 18:06:35] But it's not very well written and could be described as pessimistic (it mostly is about the times when I was like that, anyway) [2008-06-20 18:07:12] So if I end up completing this and showing it to you people, I recommend approaching it with caution ':D [2008-06-20 18:07:12] it matters not whether you hate your culture or not, we'll still get glimpses of it, so it's a new experience [2008-06-20 18:07:25] and heck, everyone hates america, both it's citizens and not [2008-06-20 18:08:41] Kikered, you're getting to me [2008-06-20 18:09:07] i'm reverting into politer speech patterns (heck over hell) [2008-06-20 18:09:28] :D [2008-06-20 18:12:54] Oh? =O [2008-06-20 18:14:40] hmmm: Shinsei, Realizations, or the Question? which is shortest? [2008-06-20 18:14:59] Hoo, Shinsei's shorter than Ripples? =O [2008-06-20 18:15:06] i'd think so [2008-06-20 18:15:10] kk [2008-06-20 18:15:12] well maybe not [2008-06-20 18:15:23] No x 1000 (to the power of Nasu) [2008-06-20 18:15:58] maybe i should only aim for 200 words... these stories all have to be longer than that... right? [2008-06-20 18:17:13] or maybe i should play it extra safe and shoot for zero... [2008-06-20 18:17:26] That's the best kind... for the creator. =P [2008-06-20 18:17:40] well [2008-06-20 18:17:54] it'd definitely throw me more into a director's chair than a writer's [2008-06-20 18:18:04] and it'd definitely throw all the work onto yvan [2008-06-20 18:18:23] Ah, you were planning on involving others? =P [2008-06-20 18:18:28] naturally [2008-06-20 18:18:30] i'm not artist [2008-06-20 18:18:36] Neither am I =3 [2008-06-20 18:18:46] yeah, but i won't even attempt it [2008-06-20 18:21:17] =( [2008-06-20 18:22:31] Gotta start somewhere ;P [2008-06-20 18:22:40] no i don't [2008-06-20 18:22:49] i am a writer, i will be nothing else [2008-06-20 18:23:18] well, maybe a programmer... but that doesn't count [2008-06-20 18:23:39] Things absolutely neccessary to attain the the strength to write more of this: Popsicles. [2008-06-20 18:23:58] Three of them to be precise :3 [2008-06-20 18:24:15] That's a lot =O [2008-06-20 18:24:27] hardly sounds like enough to me [2008-06-20 18:26:15] Kikered_, I eat too much ^^; [2008-06-20 18:27:09] But my digestion works quite well so I'm slightly underweight [2008-06-20 18:27:10] I probably eat too little ^^; [2008-06-20 18:27:41] I'll try writing 3 pieces of this today, I think... [2008-06-20 18:27:52] Sometimes give my sister crap for snacking =P [2008-06-20 18:29:22] Uh, if I write these in order, I'll get a couple of tough ones today... [2008-06-20 18:29:24] hmm... I'm curious about the Happening... [2008-06-20 18:29:32] Ara? [2008-06-20 18:29:38] it's M. Night Shamalyan, but... it's also M. Night Shamalyan [2008-06-20 18:29:45] =P [2008-06-20 18:30:09] I don't dislike his stuff, but I haven't seen many of them either. [2008-06-20 18:30:41] -->| FIA (n=ericvane@30.173.50.60.kbu01-home.tm.net.my) has joined #baka-trio [2008-06-20 18:30:46] (Humble beginnings! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v89/kikered/Boredom%20Fic%20Characters/Claudia.jpg) [2008-06-20 18:30:51] ooh, hi FIA :o [2008-06-20 18:31:02] (Probably the first doodle I made during a class ever. =3 ) [2008-06-20 18:31:04] Hi, FIA [2008-06-20 18:32:25] (About a year later: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v89/kikered/Claudia3.jpg) [2008-06-20 18:33:42] Hello FIA [2008-06-20 18:34:53] FIA!!! [2008-06-20 18:35:21] (also, Shamalyan has been getting slowly but progressively worse, though his stuff isn't /terrible/ yet) [2008-06-20 18:35:43] I'm much afraid I'll end up the same way though [2008-06-20 18:35:53] cuz everything i write nowadays doesn't seem to compare to SS [2008-06-20 18:37:22] and i knew there was a Y somewhere, but it's Shyamalan for the record [2008-06-20 18:38:06] =( [2008-06-20 18:38:46] Kikered_, I see a lot of improvement :3 [2008-06-20 18:40:36] ^^; [2008-06-20 18:40:54] It's been a few years since that second one, but I haven't really tried to draw her again yet. =X [2008-06-20 18:42:13] |<-- FIA-Kaiser has left irc.freenode.net (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [2008-06-20 18:42:37] ...hmmm... [2008-06-20 18:42:44] It seems FIA isn't alive... :o [2008-06-20 18:44:02] rapidshare!!! [2008-06-20 18:44:18] 200 seconds is a ludicrous wait time [2008-06-20 18:44:19] o.O [2008-06-20 18:44:31] this is the information age, the high speed era [2008-06-20 18:44:34] =P [2008-06-20 18:44:36] you can barely ask me to wait 45 [2008-06-20 18:44:43] how ballsy [2008-06-20 18:46:11] *NickServ* This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify . [2008-06-20 18:46:12] =-= YOU are now known as drake [2008-06-20 18:46:16] stupid -n [2008-06-20 18:47:53] and today's amusing little tidbit [2008-06-20 18:48:34] I got 000 as my input captcha code thingy... as if a bot couldn't hit that [2008-06-20 18:49:05] =P [2008-06-20 18:49:17] well.. maybe if there's all sorts of misleading lines and such on it... ;P [2008-06-20 18:49:29] none at all [2008-06-20 18:49:38] and even if they were, this is one code you could brute force [2008-06-20 18:49:52] =X [2008-06-20 18:51:09] do you think LSF is the type of audience for mystery stories? [2008-06-20 18:51:16] like whodunnits, specifically [2008-06-20 18:52:15] I'd consider LSF as a rather versatile audience, so kind of yes :3 [2008-06-20 18:52:28] (aagh, writing this is a pain in so many ways... Yet so rewarding) [2008-06-20 18:52:36] but everyone stresses character over plot, so i was wondering if they could handle a plot-driven mystery [2008-06-20 18:54:01] nandesuka minna sama? [2008-06-20 18:54:05] Gack! [2008-06-20 18:54:14] * FIA arrange himself. [2008-06-20 18:54:16] =P [2008-06-20 18:54:20] hello, folks [2008-06-20 18:54:25] (Yawn) [2008-06-20 18:54:27] tch [2008-06-20 18:54:32] i'm gonna have to trademark that and soon [2008-06-20 18:54:43] 'tch'? =P [2008-06-20 18:54:52] no, "hello, folks" and any variation [2008-06-20 18:54:57] no one uses "folks" anymore [2008-06-20 18:55:08] I've caught myself using it recently =P [2008-06-20 18:55:17] Also, there've been mystery games made with RenPy haven't there? [2008-06-20 18:55:25] honestly, not very good ones [2008-06-20 18:55:34] and they weren't as well praised as others [2008-06-20 18:56:16] also, it's impossible in most of them to be able to guess what you have to do during your first play through so you can get the clues you need to solve the case [2008-06-20 18:56:22] it's a little unfair in that regard [2008-06-20 18:58:21] Mm [2008-06-20 18:58:47] what i mean is... i wouldn't get it in my first try, not because of lack of detecting ability [2008-06-20 18:58:55] but because i picked the wrong choice somewhere [2008-06-20 18:59:07] Right [2008-06-20 18:59:12] Should i talk to X or to Y? [2008-06-20 18:59:20] Well, I have no idea going in what either of them would know [2008-06-20 18:59:31] so it's really a coin toss instead of detective work [2008-06-20 19:00:21] i was considering writing a mystery where all the clues are presented to you, no matter what you pick [2008-06-20 19:00:25] I'd like to think that something that is well done would be well praised regardless of what it is. =P [2008-06-20 19:00:38] but the choices refer more to your /interpretation/ of the clues rather than actually finding them [2008-06-20 19:01:06] Ooh, tricky [2008-06-20 19:01:18] I think that'd be the best kind of game. [2008-06-20 19:01:23] Er, mystery game [2008-06-20 19:01:26] take the puddle on the floor [2008-06-20 19:01:39] could it have been an icicle that was used as the murder weapon then melted? [2008-06-20 19:01:40] Huh... [2008-06-20 19:01:50] 1 more mean part written... [2008-06-20 19:01:53] or could it be the water from the vase that broke when cracked over the victim's head? [2008-06-20 19:02:09] that's pieces were later cleaned up, but the water still stayed [2008-06-20 19:02:26] (Hang in there, Hime =D ) [2008-06-20 19:02:29] or could it have been from the leak in the ceiling? and a complete red herring? [2008-06-20 19:02:41] (Thanks... I'm trying... ;w;) [2008-06-20 19:03:04] Oh, it seems FIA is alive too :o [2008-06-20 19:03:07] Hi to you :3 [2008-06-20 19:03:20] Urrr. [2008-06-20 19:03:22] * FIA is reading the log now. [2008-06-20 19:04:02] 2 out of the 3 parts I'm trying to write tonight feature the person that I hate perhaps the most in this world, awa. [2008-06-20 19:04:18] wha! hime hates people?! [2008-06-20 19:04:27] Uh... It's very rare, but a couple. [2008-06-20 19:04:41] Yes, I think I actually hate 2 persons ':3 [2008-06-20 19:05:36] 1 because she happens to be the embodiment of everything I consider wrong, 1 because... Well [2008-06-20 19:05:48] Oh the other hand.... [2008-06-20 19:05:54] This piece of writing should tell you enough about her [2008-06-20 19:06:09] doomfest stopped frequenting #renpy. [2008-06-20 19:06:19] Most probably bored with the "passiveness" of it. [2008-06-20 19:06:26] Maybe [2008-06-20 19:06:31] Either that or he's been busy =3 [2008-06-20 19:06:52] mm :o [2008-06-20 19:06:56] Awawa... [2008-06-20 19:07:00] Writing this is hard... [2008-06-20 19:07:02] So hard [2008-06-20 19:07:24] Aw, I'm sorry for talking about it all the time ':3 [2008-06-20 19:07:33] (Don't push yourself too hard, Hime =O ) [2008-06-20 19:07:36] No problem. =P [2008-06-20 19:07:41] it's vastly more on topic than me crying about rapidshare [2008-06-20 19:08:07] It's both difficult and neccessary, I think [2008-06-20 19:08:20] Going through these memories helps me a little, I think [2008-06-20 19:08:30] (Being dragged outside again. Later, everyone.) [2008-06-20 19:08:33] =-= YOU are now known as drake|away [2008-06-20 19:08:34] =-= Kikered_ is now known as Kik|Away [2008-06-20 19:09:13] Woah, two away at the same time ;_; [2008-06-20 19:09:33]