ÿþ[2008-11-20 16:39:42] =-= Topic for #baka-trio is ``Anthology Project: http://real-life.animerd2k2.net/readme/channel.htm  -- Topic - Let's discuss/explain our stories! Target: Drake-tachi!''

[2008-11-20 20:22:32] <drakey> ya know, I was kinda excited about this interviewy business
[2008-11-20 20:22:38] <drakey> but I haven't been hit with a question yet!
[2008-11-20 20:22:45] <drakey> you people are failures!
[2008-11-20 20:31:10] <xRENx> Why is it that the main character of starlit sky has such a blatant resemblance with you in that his telescope is the symbol of his (thus yours) inadequacy?
[2008-11-20 20:31:48] |<-- Jake` has left irc.freenode.net (". . .")
[2008-11-20 20:32:15] <xRENx> Why a telescope, and not something else?
[2008-11-20 20:32:17] <drakey> because I wrote it
[2008-11-20 20:32:23] <drakey> it's obviously me if i wrote it
[2008-11-20 20:32:31] <xRENx> Not necessarily?
[2008-11-20 20:32:39] <drakey> okay, it's a self-insertion story then
[2008-11-20 20:32:40] <xRENx> Not everyone can do that.
[2008-11-20 20:32:42] <drakey> so it must be me
[2008-11-20 20:32:46] <drakey> because it's self-insertion
[2008-11-20 20:33:11] <xRENx> Fine, I'm not a writer, so it interests me, I know nothing about self insertion stories and how they work
[2008-11-20 20:33:29] <xRENx> You ask for questions, you may get shitty ones :P
[2008-11-20 20:33:34] <drakey> indeed
[2008-11-20 20:33:57] <drakey> I don't think Jack is that much a resemblance of me though
[2008-11-20 20:34:06] <drakey> he's too pure hearted and mary sue'd
[2008-11-20 20:34:12] <drakey> i'm a lot more cynical
[2008-11-20 20:34:14] <xRENx> I don't know you well, I wouldn't be able to say that.
[2008-11-20 20:34:30] <drakey> one of my coworkers who played the game didn't believe I wrote it
[2008-11-20 20:34:42] <xRENx> Man, my glasses suddenly don't work anymore.
[2008-11-20 20:34:48] <xRENx> You told me :3

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[2008-11-20 20:44:17] <xRENx> How do you think it can be that you may write something which seems to be so far from your personality, huh?
[2008-11-20 20:44:23] <xRENx> Haha!
[2008-11-20 20:44:48] <drakey> hmm, good one good one
[2008-11-20 20:44:59] <drakey> I actually don't think SS is "not me"
[2008-11-20 20:45:16] <drakey> it's more the deeper me, which is pretty opposite of whatever my coworkers would see
[2008-11-20 20:46:14] <drakey> Even so, I think I could write something not me, if the theme meant something to me
[2008-11-20 20:47:20] <xRENx> What do you mean?
[2008-11-20 20:47:40] <drakey> hmm, it's hard to find an example of...
[2008-11-20 20:47:51] <xRENx> But yeah, it was kind of obvious, I'm afraid :P
[2008-11-20 20:48:11] <drakey> I guess I have one...
[2008-11-20 20:48:43] <drakey> I myself am a very irreligious person, but could see myself writing a story where religion is a big theme and viewed in a positive light
[2008-11-20 20:49:01] <xRENx> Impressive
[2008-11-20 20:49:04] <drakey> because despite my disagreements with it
[2008-11-20 20:49:13] <xRENx> I wouldn't be able to, assuming I could write :3
[2008-11-20 20:49:17] <drakey> i have seen cases where it helped out others so much
[2008-11-20 20:49:26] <drakey> that i know it has its value somewhere, in other people's minds and hearts
[2008-11-20 20:49:46] <drakey> I used to be really cynical about religion
[2008-11-20 20:49:54] <xRENx> I'm not cynical.
[2008-11-20 20:49:59] <drakey> and then I reconnected with a friend who went through some really bad times
[2008-11-20 20:50:08] <drakey> and she used religion as a means to get through it
[2008-11-20 20:50:21] <drakey> and so I grew to respect what it could do for people, despite that I don't believe myself
[2008-11-20 20:50:48] <xRENx> My problem with it isn't that I don't believe in God.
[2008-11-20 20:51:17] <xRENx> It's that most people use it in the worse possible way, to remain ignorant sheeps.
[2008-11-20 20:51:33] <xRENx> Where by ignorant I don't mean with just a few notions.
[2008-11-20 20:51:39] <xRENx> Not thinking for themselves.
[2008-11-20 20:51:50] <xRENx> But that's not interesting.
[2008-11-20 20:51:59] <drakey> yes, back to vns and such!
[2008-11-20 20:52:11] <xRENx> Well
[2008-11-20 20:52:53] <xRENx> There is something I'm interested in, but I guess  it would be more appropriate for one of those "Teach me how to do it!" threads at Lemma, and I'm not going to learn how to write anyway :P
[2008-11-20 20:53:19] <drakey> if you have something to ask, go ahead
[2008-11-20 20:53:27] <drakey> i'd love for the opportunity to teach Sensei something
[2008-11-20 20:53:40] <xRENx> I was wondering about your ability to characterise every single character as if they weren't just slightly different 'you's talking.
[2008-11-20 20:53:45] <xRENx> Haha
[2008-11-20 20:53:59] <xRENx> Naw, naw, it's a infertile field :P
[2008-11-20 20:54:16] <drakey> ahh
[2008-11-20 20:54:26] <drakey> well, that was probably mostly luck
[2008-11-20 20:54:51] <drakey> on a surface level, they may have distinct voices
[2008-11-20 20:55:05] <drakey> but I think that they all are still just different me's
[2008-11-20 20:55:14] <drakey> I personally still think that anyway
[2008-11-20 20:55:16] <xRENx> Well, ok
[2008-11-20 20:55:41] <xRENx> But it's less apparent than in most other VNs or even some books I read? (the few I did :P)
[2008-11-20 20:56:02] <drakey> well, I do give each character a different manner of speech
[2008-11-20 20:56:12] <drakey> stylistic things that make apparent differences
[2008-11-20 20:56:14] <xRENx> I could say it's the more polished skill you have, in my opinion.
[2008-11-20 20:56:51] <xRENx> Oh, that and another thing!
[2008-11-20 20:56:58] <drakey> it's probably easier with the other characters
[2008-11-20 20:57:00] <xRENx> Your stories read as smooth as oil :3
[2008-11-20 20:57:16] <drakey> I can't help but think that the protagonists will sound exactly like me and think exactly like me
[2008-11-20 20:57:20] <drakey> but it's easy to write that way
[2008-11-20 20:57:25] <drakey> ahh, thank you, thank you
[2008-11-20 20:57:36] <drakey> I can't explain how it works that way, but I'm glad it does
[2008-11-20 20:58:06] <drakey> Well...
[2008-11-20 20:58:15] <drakey> When I write, I put both content and style in mind
[2008-11-20 20:58:18] <drakey> not just content
[2008-11-20 20:58:35] <drakey> it's not just what I say but how I say it, and I know both is important
[2008-11-20 20:59:02] <drakey> writing fiction is not writing for some functional purpose, so you're allowed to put spins on words and play a bit, and I enjoy doing that
[2008-11-20 21:00:11] <drakey> I'm actually really big on the aesthetics of writing, now more so than even when I started SS, so style is very much a priority as character and depth and plot
[2008-11-20 21:00:23] <drakey> perhaps a lot of people don't put that much thought/effort into it?
[2008-11-20 21:00:31] <xRENx> Maybe
[2008-11-20 21:00:46] <xRENx> I'm not familiar with the concept, I'm afraid
[2008-11-20 21:00:57] <xRENx> Aesthetics of writing.
[2008-11-20 21:01:06] <drakey> just wordplay and style and so on
[2008-11-20 21:01:12] <drakey> how it looks on a surface level
[2008-11-20 21:01:17] <xRENx> I see.
[2008-11-20 21:01:18] <drakey> "pretty writing" I suppose?
[2008-11-20 21:01:25] <drakey> as opposed to deep but simple prose
[2008-11-20 21:01:26] <xRENx> Rimbaud-like?
[2008-11-20 21:01:32] <xRENx> Just not in poetry.
[2008-11-20 21:01:49] <drakey> haven't read any Rimbaud
[2008-11-20 21:01:57] <xRENx> Because you're American
[2008-11-20 21:02:00] <drakey> indeed
[2008-11-20 21:02:07] <xRENx> Although Jake is English, and he didn't either T_T
[2008-11-20 21:02:10] <drakey> I also hate poetry, but that's another thing
[2008-11-20 21:02:16] <xRENx> Oh, me too!
[2008-11-20 21:02:24] <xRENx> But Rimbaud is another thing entirely!
[2008-11-20 21:02:33] <drakey> so you mentioned a second ago
[2008-11-20 21:02:43] <drakey> but he was also a poet i take it?
[2008-11-20 21:03:01] <xRENx> Yes, a poet
[2008-11-20 21:03:26] <xRENx> But he's actually interesting, and he's just great when it comes to playing with words
[2008-11-20 21:03:42] <drakey> then it is probably just like that
[2008-11-20 21:03:55] <xRENx> Making them clash, giving you a vivid impression with just a few words
[2008-11-20 21:04:00] <drakey> my perfect example would be Nabokov's _Lolita_ , if you've ever read it
[2008-11-20 21:04:09] <drakey> it's very much about the style as it is the content
[2008-11-20 21:04:21] <drakey> sooo sooo many wordplays, puns, turns of phrase
[2008-11-20 21:04:31] <drakey> it's so beautifully written, and it's a beautiful story too
[2008-11-20 21:04:40] <xRENx> http://funkyturtle.livejournal.com/327883.html Here's a translation
[2008-11-20 21:04:49] <xRENx> No, never, just a few exerpts
[2008-11-20 21:05:14] <drakey> it's one of my top favorites
[2008-11-20 21:05:50] <xRENx> Really?
[2008-11-20 21:06:07] <xRENx> I see.
[2008-11-20 21:06:35] <xRENx> Hmm, there's another thing I'm curious about
[2008-11-20 21:06:41] <xRENx> If you don't mind, that is.
[2008-11-20 21:06:49] <xRENx> Since no one else is asking :P
[2008-11-20 21:06:54] <drakey> shoot
[2008-11-20 21:08:02] <xRENx> I wonder, would you rather finish a novel/story/whatever in a way that is not exactly the way you wanted it to be or doesn't satisfy you fully or are you the kind of person that polishes their work over and over, without worrying about time?
[2008-11-20 21:08:46] <drakey> definitely more the former
[2008-11-20 21:09:01] <drakey> I do do revisions, which I can't say of other projects
[2008-11-20 21:09:33] <drakey> and I don't mean just a scene or two, I mean larger scale, huge portions rewritten
[2008-11-20 21:09:41] <drakey> but I definitely find a stopping point
[2008-11-20 21:10:04] <drakey> perfectionism is one of the biggest blocks on finishing
[2008-11-20 21:10:23] <drakey> There are a lot of flaws in Araiah for example
[2008-11-20 21:10:38] <drakey> so many, I'm almost embarrassed that it's gonna be (self-)published
[2008-11-20 21:10:57] <drakey> but I'm still moving forward with it anyway, mostly because of the energy the other two bring (enerccio and yvan)
[2008-11-20 21:13:26] <drakey> that being said, I'm so incredibly content with how Starlit Sky turned out that even if I came up with a means to improve it, I actually wouldn't

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[2008-11-20 21:54:35] <drakey> speaking of questions
[2008-11-20 21:54:38] <drakey> hit me, kik!
[2008-11-20 21:54:38] <Kikered> Wapanese?
[2008-11-20 21:54:43] <Kikered> Or similar language construct? =3
[2008-11-20 21:55:01] <drakey> or just minor lack of comprehension of english...
[2008-11-20 21:55:13] <drakey> now where are my questions?!
[2008-11-20 21:55:20] * Kikered punches drake in the mouth
[2008-11-20 21:55:31] <drakey> ow-owww...
[2008-11-20 21:55:40] <drakey> that was rather mean and surprisingly violent of you
[2008-11-20 21:55:42] <Kikered> Oops. Questions, huh...?
[2008-11-20 21:55:45] <Kikered> =3
[2008-11-20 21:56:19] <Kikered> What questions have been asked already?
[2008-11-20 21:56:25] <Kikered> And where's that log??
[2008-11-20 21:56:31] <drakey> just ask first
[2008-11-20 21:56:37] <drakey> and you don't get to see that log just yet
[2008-11-20 21:56:47] <drakey> not until you spill with some questions yourself first!
[2008-11-20 21:57:30] <Kikered> Hm, okay. What was the inspiration for Starlit Sky?
[2008-11-20 21:57:38] <drakey> Wild Arms 3!
[2008-11-20 21:57:52] <Kikered> What part of it? =o
[2008-11-20 21:58:03] <Kikered> I've played it to a point and got stuck ._.
[2008-11-20 21:58:11] <drakey> there's this sorta subquest where you collect adventure books
[2008-11-20 21:58:21] <drakey> and each one relates to a new chapter of a story you tell Clive's daughter
[2008-11-20 21:58:28] <drakey> that story was the inspiration
[2008-11-20 21:58:54] <drakey> in fact, I borrow themes and even character names from it!
[2008-11-20 21:58:54] <Kikered> Ooh, interesting
[2008-11-20 21:59:00] <Kikered> !
[2008-11-20 21:59:25] <drakey> http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/478787/36777
[2008-11-20 21:59:29] <drakey> if you wanna read it
[2008-11-20 21:59:40] <drakey> it's the script for the whole story
[2008-11-20 22:00:17] <Kikered> Looks long =o
[2008-11-20 22:00:33] <drakey> it is, but worth it
[2008-11-20 22:00:39] <Kikered> How about for the characters and situations? Did some of them come from the story, too?
[2008-11-20 22:00:45] <drakey> to some degree yes
[2008-11-20 22:00:56] <drakey> I don't think there's one character /name/ that didn't come from the story
[2008-11-20 22:01:24] <drakey> Jack Beckson is the protagonist in the story as much as he is in mine
[2008-11-20 22:01:38] <drakey> Marivel Armitage is the heroine in both as well
[2008-11-20 22:01:42] <drakey> however, fun fact!
[2008-11-20 22:01:52] <drakey> Marivel Armitage is actually a hidden character in Wild Arms 2
[2008-11-20 22:02:00] <drakey> so she already had a start before WA3
[2008-11-20 22:02:04] <Kikered> Personality-wise as well as in name?
[2008-11-20 22:02:14] <drakey> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wild_Arms_2_characters#Marivel_Armitage
[2008-11-20 22:03:33] <drakey> well, the cast is a lot younger for the most part
[2008-11-20 22:03:47] <drakey> Jack and the crew are only in elementary school I believe, in the adventure book story
[2008-11-20 22:03:56] <drakey> like 8/9/10?
[2008-11-20 22:04:27] <drakey> (with the exception of Marivel of course, who, in the wa story, is a vampire some thousands of years old probably)
[2008-11-20 22:04:47] <Kikered> Hehe
[2008-11-20 22:05:04] <drakey> but a good number of things from this story were translated into my own
[2008-11-20 22:05:20] <Kikered> I see, I see.
[2008-11-20 22:05:29] <drakey> WA Jack has a fascination with flying, and builds model airplanes and such
[2008-11-20 22:05:37] <drakey> I took that a step further and had him persue the stars
[2008-11-20 22:06:24] <drakey> Reese Farlain plays violin in both, as does Kareena with her piano
[2008-11-20 22:06:58] <drakey> also, Jack's fascination in flying stems from his desire to see Clementine, as much does my Jack and his deal with the stars
[2008-11-20 22:07:08] <drakey> however, I also play on relationship roles
[2008-11-20 22:07:23] <drakey> WA Clementine Beckson is Jack's mother, as opposed to his younger sister
[2008-11-20 22:07:32] <drakey> WA Kareena is Reese's mother, not fiance
[2008-11-20 22:07:34] <drakey> etc etc
[2008-11-20 22:07:45] <drakey> Anastasia was a friend of Marivel's, not a sister
[2008-11-20 22:08:31] <drakey> I'd say there's a great deal of differences, but also a great deal of similarities
[2008-11-20 22:09:02] <Kikered> Hoo.. that's pretty impressive ^^
[2008-11-20 22:09:27] <Kikered> Was your version of the story more or less fully formed before you began writing?
[2008-11-20 22:09:40] <drakey> well... I would suppose so
[2008-11-20 22:09:45] <drakey> I had the overall plot
[2008-11-20 22:09:53] <Kikered> I know that you mentioned leaving to-do tags for specifics
[2008-11-20 22:09:59] <Kikered> Or some segments
[2008-11-20 22:10:02] <drakey> I had each character down, their arc, and their /problem/ down
[2008-11-20 22:10:09] <drakey> but I didn't come up with the solutions till later
[2008-11-20 22:10:25] <drakey> (with the exception of Marivel, since her problem doesn't have a real solution, ahaha)
[2008-11-20 22:10:40] <drakey> Most of it was indeed there from the start though (rather suprisingly)
[2008-11-20 22:11:03] <drakey> one really big scene was added only the day before release though which was never part of the plan
[2008-11-20 22:11:08] <drakey> and it made a great deal of difference
[2008-11-20 22:12:34] <Kikered> Oho, and which one was that?
[2008-11-20 22:13:40] <drakey> There's a flashback scene where Jack falls asleep in the Reese/Kareena mansion library
[2008-11-20 22:13:58] <drakey> and there's a part where Jack remembers the first time he took Clementine to see the stars 
[2008-11-20 22:14:06] <drakey> that half of it wasn't part of the original plan
[2008-11-20 22:14:27] <drakey> there was always gonna be the flashback to Clementine's death bed, but the half before it was never in the plan
[2008-11-20 22:14:41] <Kikered> Ah =o
[2008-11-20 22:14:56] <drakey> However, I use this new part to draw a parallel in Marivel's breakdown scene in the graveyard
[2008-11-20 22:15:14] <drakey> Jack even makes a comparison b/w Marivel and Clementine that wouldn't have been possible to make without that scene
[2008-11-20 22:15:46] <drakey> I think it was a very important addition
[2008-11-20 22:16:21] <Kikered> Mm, indeed.
[2008-11-20 22:18:08] <Kikered> Moving on to your short story, is there a story behind that one, too?
[2008-11-20 22:18:16] <drakey> not at all
[2008-11-20 22:18:45] <Kikered> None? No inspirations or whatnot?
[2008-11-20 22:19:18] <drakey> http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/583/haru2jk0.jpg
[2008-11-20 22:19:21] <drakey> This is Haru
[2008-11-20 22:19:26] <drakey> from G-Senjou no Maou
[2008-11-20 22:19:33] <drakey> she was a vague inspiration for Daisy
[2008-11-20 22:19:49] <drakey> they aren't alike at all, but mentally, to me, they look very similar
[2008-11-20 22:20:05] <drakey> I wanted someone with that head of hair that you could get lost in, such a mess of a head
[2008-11-20 22:20:14] <drakey> and that's really how the whole thing came to be
[2008-11-20 22:20:58] <Kikered> Hehehe
[2008-11-20 22:21:06] <drakey> it's a weird story, i know
[2008-11-20 22:21:15] <drakey> well, that was Daisy
[2008-11-20 22:21:19] <drakey> as for the plot itself
[2008-11-20 22:21:28] <drakey> I just sorta wanted something where the hero and heroine didn't end up as friends
[2008-11-20 22:21:48] <drakey> and I was growing sick of depressive emo types that I thought I'd do an arrogant bastard instead
[2008-11-20 22:21:53] <drakey> thus Max
[2008-11-20 22:22:47] <drakey> and once I had his personality down, the story just fell into place really
[2008-11-20 22:23:01] <drakey> He'd alienate everyone and be alienated because he's a haughty bastard
[2008-11-20 22:23:23] <drakey> but he was desperate for a friend so he picks the oddball loner who he thinks he has a good chance of befriending
[2008-11-20 22:23:31] <drakey> and turns out, no, he really doesn't
[2008-11-20 22:24:06] <Kikered> hahaha
[2008-11-20 22:24:31] <drakey> there really isn't much of a story behind it... everything sorta snapped into place in an instant
[2008-11-20 22:24:40] <drakey> and then i had to write the damn thing, and that's where all the time went
[2008-11-20 22:27:28] <Kikered> Enviable skills =o
[2008-11-20 22:27:35] <drakey> not at all
[2008-11-20 22:27:45] <drakey> it isn't much of a story, so it didn't require much thought
[2008-11-20 22:27:59] <Kikered> Enjoyable nonetheless
[2008-11-20 22:28:31] <Kikered> Since names are relatively big deal for you, are there reasons for the names of those characters? =3
[2008-11-20 22:28:39] <Kikered> Max and Daisy
[2008-11-20 22:28:40] <drakey> oh ho ho ho ho
[2008-11-20 22:28:49] <drakey> i was hoping you'd ask that
[2008-11-20 22:29:10] <Kikered> Just as planned ><
[2008-11-20 22:29:17] <drakey> you're indeed right
[2008-11-20 22:29:25] <drakey> the names are very intentional
[2008-11-20 22:29:35] <drakey> Max Haughtly
[2008-11-20 22:29:42] <drakey> well, drop the L in the last name and you get Haughty
[2008-11-20 22:30:02] <drakey> haughty - 5 dictionary results
[2008-11-20 22:30:02] <drakey> haughÅ"ty
[2008-11-20 22:30:02] <drakey>  
[2008-11-20 22:30:02] <drakey>  /ÈhTti/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [haw-tee] Show IPA Pronunciation
[2008-11-20 22:30:02] <drakey>  adjective, -tiÅ"er, -tiÅ"est.
[2008-11-20 22:30:02] <drakey> 1. 	disdainfully proud; snobbish; scornfully arrogant; supercilious: haughty aristocrats; a haughty salesclerk. 
[2008-11-20 22:30:15] <Kikered> Ha!
[2008-11-20 22:30:21] <drakey> and just to amplify
[2008-11-20 22:30:22] <drakey> Max
[2008-11-20 22:30:32] <drakey> *MAX* Haughty + an L 
[2008-11-20 22:31:08] <drakey> so that's Max, fits perfect
[2008-11-20 22:31:24] <drakey> now Daisy Farroway
[2008-11-20 22:31:42] <drakey> who was originally intended to be a space case, but it didn't quite come out so well methinks
[2008-11-20 22:31:51] <drakey> she's a little too sharp and biting for one
[2008-11-20 22:32:07] <drakey> Daisy = Dazey -> Daze-y, as in a daze
[2008-11-20 22:32:18] <drakey> plus I needed to name her after a flower for a joke or something 
[2008-11-20 22:32:49] <drakey> m "Ahem. Anyway, I'm Max. Daisy, right?" 
[2008-11-20 22:32:49] <drakey> d "I respond to it when called. That and Tulip. But I much prefer ~Sunflower~." 
[2008-11-20 22:33:20] <Kikered> Ha!
[2008-11-20 22:33:25] <drakey> Farroway is sort of a lame effort at "Far Away", as in her mind is in another place
[2008-11-20 22:33:30] <Kikered> Mm, got it.
[2008-11-20 22:33:44] <drakey> and so there you go
[2008-11-20 22:35:48] <Kikered> Cool, cool
[2008-11-20 22:36:15] <Kikered> Well, I haven't really got any more works-related questions...
[2008-11-20 22:36:21] <Kikered> Any pointers for aspiring writers? =3
[2008-11-20 22:36:29] <drakey> none whatsoever
[2008-11-20 22:36:37] <drakey> they don't need to take advice from a lazy bastard like me
[2008-11-20 22:39:02] <Kikered> Pah! Surely you have pearls of wisdom as far as actual writing is concerned
[2008-11-20 22:39:12] <Kikered> Rather than on the work ethic required =3
[2008-11-20 22:39:22] <drakey> just an old adage: "Short != Low Quality!"
[2008-11-20 22:40:22] <drakey> and perhaps just be a little more conservative with your ambitions, so you don't aim further than you can reach
[2008-11-20 22:42:23] <Kikered> Hehe, fair enough. =3
[2008-11-20 22:42:46] <Kikered> (The WA3 story is pretty interesting, by the way! )
[2008-11-20 22:42:52] <Kikered> (Roughly half done)
[2008-11-20 22:43:12] <drakey> told ya
[2008-11-20 22:43:31] <drakey> I had actually considered a reinvisioning some /years/ before I sat down to write SS
[2008-11-20 22:43:36] <drakey> back in my high school days
[2008-11-20 22:43:57] <drakey> it was a very different story then, and much more fanfiction-esque than an original story using borrowed themes
[2008-11-20 22:44:08] <drakey> but the idea of retelling that story had been with me for a while
[2008-11-20 22:44:16] <drakey> which might explain why I actually managed to get it done

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[2008-11-21 17:12:08] <lordcloudx> our envelope-pushers are at it again
[2008-11-21 17:13:26] <lordcloudx> also, did I miss anything?
[2008-11-21 17:15:54] <Kik|Work> You missed Ren and I grilling drake =3
[2008-11-21 17:16:08] <drakey> you, grill? hardly
[2008-11-21 17:16:15] <drakey> you were pandering to me with those questions
[2008-11-21 17:16:31] <Kik|Work> That's how I roll ;P
[2008-11-21 17:17:34] <Kik|Work> Also, that was a pretty nice story =3
[2008-11-21 17:17:41] <drakey> you finished?
[2008-11-21 17:17:46] <Kik|Work> Indeed
[2008-11-21 17:17:53] <drakey> so can you see some of the parallels?
[2008-11-21 17:17:58] <Kik|Work> Indeed
[2008-11-21 17:18:55] <Kik|Work> I can kinda see some of Marivel in Melissa, too. =3
[2008-11-21 17:20:56] <lordcloudx> I see, I see
[2008-11-21 17:20:56] <lordcloudx> excellent!
[2008-11-21 17:20:59] <lordcloudx> I'll have to ask for a log laterz
[2008-11-21 17:22:29] <drakey> well, am i done, or are you gonna ask a few?
[2008-11-21 17:22:39] <lordcloudx> lesee...
[2008-11-21 17:23:07] <Kik|Work> Never!
[2008-11-21 17:23:16] <lordcloudx> I'll just ask about the writing process
[2008-11-21 17:23:21] <Kik|Work> You get to endure the same treatment as me!
[2008-11-21 17:23:38] <Kik|Work> Waiting agonizing days for the crosshair to move elsewhere!
[2008-11-21 17:23:42] <lordcloudx> how long did it take you? What was the biggest problem? Over-all was it an enjoyable experience?
[2008-11-21 17:24:09] <lordcloudx> for Starlit Sky
[2008-11-21 17:24:15] <drakey> Starlit Sky took me about three months, but there was a pretty sizeable period of inaction
[2008-11-21 17:24:57] <drakey> Either somewhere in b/w the Violetta and Kareena arc or during the Kareena arc, I sorta put it aside and let it be for nearly a month
[2008-11-21 17:25:24] <drakey> There really wasn't any /real/ problems
[2008-11-21 17:25:43] <drakey> but the biggest halts came when I had to come up with a solution for both Violetta's and Kareena's dilemnas
[2008-11-21 17:26:04] <drakey> I hadn't thought of them beforehand, they weren't parts of the plan
[2008-11-21 17:26:17] <drakey> so I had to come up with them when I reached that point
[2008-11-21 17:26:21] <drakey> which took time
[2008-11-21 17:27:00] <drakey> SS was a very enjoyable experience to write
[2008-11-21 17:27:08] <drakey> moreso than anything I've done before or after
[2008-11-21 17:27:17] <drakey> there was just something about it that made it both easy to write and a lot of fun
[2008-11-21 17:27:37] <drakey> and I guess that might be a part of why it's my only real project done, ahaha
[2008-11-21 17:28:12] <drakey> Even during the halts, I'd think about it, and not get discouraged with the lack of progress, but rather excited about trying different solutions in my head and seeing which one panned out the best
[2008-11-21 17:28:13] <lordcloudx> :)
[2008-11-21 17:28:20] <drakey> so it was a really smooth project 
[2008-11-21 17:28:59] <lordcloudx> awright
[2008-11-21 17:30:05] <lordcloudx> so... did you do any research for SS? Information about constellations, stars, witches, etc. ?
[2008-11-21 17:30:22] <drakey> aside from reread the story that served as inspiration, none at all
[2008-11-21 17:30:28] <drakey> *rereading
[2008-11-21 17:30:48] <lordcloudx> that would be the WA3 sidequest?
[2008-11-21 17:30:52] <drakey> yep
[2008-11-21 17:31:39] <drakey> since I also borrowed the names, I did have a notebook with a page or two of just names, themes, locations, etc from the story
[2008-11-21 17:32:25] <drakey> and a few more pages about notes for Starlit Sky, specifically
[2008-11-21 17:46:23] <lordcloudx> heh
[2008-11-21 17:47:19] <lordcloudx> awright
[2008-11-21 17:47:19] <lordcloudx> production process
[2008-11-21 17:47:31] <lordcloudx> are you a write the story first and then do the other stuff later guy?
[2008-11-21 17:47:45] <drakey> i'd like to be?
[2008-11-21 17:47:46] <lordcloudx> or do you write the story as the other parts take form?
[2008-11-21 17:47:49] <drakey> but it's not how it turns out
[2008-11-21 17:48:12] <drakey> the graphics for SS were done in parallel with the story since it was supposed to be a nanoreno project
[2008-11-21 17:48:37] <drakey> Araiah I had already given up on when Enerccio picked it up, and proceeded to do his own thing with that
[2008-11-21 17:48:56] <drakey> and for Temple Glen, the graphics were again done in "parallel" as that was also supposed to be a nanoreno project
[2008-11-21 17:49:29] <drakey> but my philosophy is story first, so I don't waste work done by others if I quit
[2008-11-21 17:49:52] <lordcloudx> :)
[2008-11-21 17:50:24] <lordcloudx> got a good one
[2008-11-21 17:51:01] <lordcloudx> out of all the stories you've written/are writing so far, which character would you best identify yourself with and why?
[2008-11-21 17:52:57] <drakey> I'm not even sure if I can come up with an answer for that one
[2008-11-21 17:53:04] <lordcloudx> >)
[2008-11-21 17:53:15] <lordcloudx> then you write from a detached perspective?
[2008-11-21 17:53:25] <drakey> can you better define "identify"?
[2008-11-21 17:53:39] <lordcloudx> oh, the character that you see yourself in.
[2008-11-21 17:53:50] <lordcloudx> intentionally or otherwise
[2008-11-21 17:55:28] <drakey> probably Noah from the EV demo?
[2008-11-21 17:55:45] <drakey> ignoring personality, I think he thinks a lot like I do
[2008-11-21 17:56:03] <drakey> It's very intentional though, so I figured a protagonist much like myself would be the easiest for me to write
[2008-11-21 17:57:08] <lordcloudx> okie
[2008-11-21 17:57:13] <lordcloudx> so, last question from me
[2008-11-21 17:57:56] <lordcloudx> Have we seen the best of drakey? (In your opinion)
[2008-11-21 17:58:20] <drakey> there's a fair chance of it, if I don't actually write anything else...
[2008-11-21 17:58:55] <drakey> I really like SS, and I think I set a pretty high bar for myself having released it first
[2008-11-21 17:59:25] <drakey> I think it's a very good example of what I'm capable of in perhaps my greater moments... so I think it'll be tough to top
[2008-11-21 18:00:01] <drakey> I have a lot of dissatisfactions with Araiah which will probably be the next thing you see from me
[2008-11-21 18:00:30] <drakey> and even though I've given Temple Glen one last shot, I've said I was gonna give it one last shot a few times before... I really hate that one, so you might not even see it
[2008-11-21 18:01:53] <lordcloudx> :)
[2008-11-21 18:02:06] <lordcloudx> Ok, that's all from me
[2008-11-21 18:02:07] <lordcloudx> thank ya
[2008-11-21 18:02:53] <lordcloudx> Kikered: shall we leave the topic on for a few days?
[2008-11-21 18:03:30] <lordcloudx> no response... he must be... working?
[2008-11-21 18:03:47] <lordcloudx> or packing up to go home :P
[2008-11-21 18:05:13] <lordcloudx> oh!
[2008-11-21 18:05:20] <lordcloudx> a follow-up, if you don't mind
[2008-11-21 18:05:33] <drakey> I'm still the target, so shoot
[2008-11-21 18:05:44] <lordcloudx> What makes SS better than everything else you've made so far?
[2008-11-21 18:05:56] <drakey> it's done
[2008-11-21 18:06:02] <lordcloudx> >(
[2008-11-21 18:06:21] <drakey> it's all i have officially to my name
[2008-11-21 18:06:36] <lordcloudx> personally, I mean
[2008-11-21 18:06:47] <drakey> i know i know
[2008-11-21 18:07:48] <drakey> it has the least obnoxious flaws?
[2008-11-21 18:08:40] <drakey> there have been flaws in all my projects that result in pretty big disappointments
[2008-11-21 18:08:41] <lordcloudx> nothing about the sentimental value?
[2008-11-21 18:08:49] <drakey> but I can't find anything like that in SS that actually upsets me

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[2008-11-21 18:27:18] <drakey> Sensei!
[2008-11-21 18:27:28] <lordcloudx> ei, drake
[2008-11-21 18:27:34] <lordcloudx> you still haven't finished answering the last
[2008-11-21 18:27:36] <lordcloudx> one
[2008-11-21 18:27:49] <lordcloudx> nothing about the sentimental value of SS?
[2008-11-21 18:27:50] <drakey> nothing about the sentimental value
[2008-11-21 18:28:08] <lordcloudx> nooooo!
[2008-11-21 18:28:10] <lordcloudx> jez fyn
[2008-11-21 18:28:12] <lordcloudx> I'm done
[2008-11-21 18:28:31] <drakey> well what do you mean specifically by that
[2008-11-21 18:28:56] <lordcloudx> it's a follow-up to the previous question
[2008-11-21 18:29:18] <lordcloudx> what makes SS better than your other works? Does it have nothing to do with the sentimental value?
[2008-11-21 18:30:10] <drakey> well, all of my projects have some degree of sentimental value
[2008-11-21 18:30:15] <drakey> even the unfinished ones
[2008-11-21 18:30:31] <drakey> if it were just a scale of that, EV might've one just because I still think about it from time to time
[2008-11-21 18:30:35] <drakey> *won
[2008-11-21 18:30:49] <drakey> so it really doesn't have anything to do with sentimental value really
[2008-11-21 18:30:56] <lordcloudx> right
[2008-11-21 18:31:01] <lordcloudx> I am satisfied with that
[2008-11-21 18:31:04] <lordcloudx> >)
[2008-11-21 18:31:34] <drakey> well, Jake` , are you gonna hit me with a question or two while you're here?
[2008-11-21 18:31:58] <Jake`> OK.
[2008-11-21 18:32:00] <Jake`> Why did you do it?
[2008-11-21 18:32:05] <Jake`> We know you done it.
[2008-11-21 18:32:12] <drakey> I was coerced into it
[2008-11-21 18:32:20] <lordcloudx> ;)
[2008-11-21 18:32:42] <drakey> well, that'd actually be true of a lot of other things
[2008-11-21 18:34:33] <Jake`> I was speaking specifically about writing that thing with the girl and the other girl and the woman and the telescope
[2008-11-21 18:34:54] <lordcloudx> ahihihi
[2008-11-21 18:35:22] <drakey> it's always about the telescope with you people
[2008-11-21 18:35:37] <drakey> *you're* the ones with the fascination over it!
[2008-11-21 18:37:12] <drakey> To answer honestly, I wrote Starlit Sky because I thought it'd be a good thing to get out while I was "working" on my main project at the time
[2008-11-21 18:37:32] <drakey> I kinda wanted to get a game done, and Nanoreno was an opportunity to do so, and *poof* Starlit Sky came to be
[2008-11-21 18:37:45] <lordcloudx> huzzah!
[2008-11-21 18:38:42] <lordcloudx> Oh, I forgot. We can't change the topic until we've interrogated the minion as well
[2008-11-21 18:38:54] <lordcloudx> >D
[2008-11-21 18:39:15] <lordcloudx> topic says Drake-tachi
[2008-11-21 18:39:16] <drakey> to answer dishonestly, I was hired by MediaVision to do a retelling of a sidequest story in a bizarre effort to increase sales of Wild Arms 3

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[2008-11-21 19:04:11] -->| Enerccio (n=wutlol@ip-88-212-18-166.antik.sk) has joined #baka-trio
[2008-11-21 19:04:20] <Kikered> Hi, enerccio
[2008-11-21 19:04:23] <drakey> ha!
[2008-11-21 19:04:27] <drakey> bombard him with questions!
[2008-11-21 19:04:34] <drakey> he's included in the -tachi, right?
[2008-11-21 19:04:44] <Kikered> Indeed
[2008-11-21 19:04:45] <Enerccio> hmm monele is not here
[2008-11-21 19:04:52] <Enerccio> god damn it those valve servers
[2008-11-21 19:05:09] <Kikered> Enerccio! Prepare yourself!
[2008-11-21 19:05:38] |<-- Enerccio has left irc.freenode.net (Client Quit)
[2008-11-21 19:05:43] <Kikered> ...tch. Coward.
[2008-11-21 19:05:48] -->| Enerccio (n=wutlol@ip-88-212-18-166.antik.sk) has joined #baka-trio
[2008-11-21 19:05:56] <Kikered> ^^;
[2008-11-21 19:07:00] <Enerccio> so... waiting
[2008-11-21 19:07:25] <drakey> what happened to 2200ad?
[2008-11-21 19:08:11] <Enerccio> you are not allowed to ask
[2008-11-21 19:08:16] <drakey> says who?!
[2008-11-21 19:08:17] <Kikered> Why not?
[2008-11-21 19:08:21] <Kikered> =3
[2008-11-21 19:08:27] <Enerccio> you cant as yourself
[2008-11-21 19:08:56] <Kikered> Answer!
[2008-11-21 19:08:59] <Kikered> =P
[2008-11-21 19:08:59] <lordcloudx> :3
[2008-11-21 19:09:08] <Enerccio> nothing
[2008-11-21 19:09:11] <Enerccio> same as usual
[2008-11-21 19:09:24] <Enerccio>  /on hold/
[2008-11-21 19:09:30] <drakey> lies!
[2008-11-21 19:09:54] <Enerccio> is it?
[2008-11-21 19:10:00] <Enerccio> how do /you/ know
[2008-11-21 19:10:05] <Enerccio> oh btw drake
[2008-11-21 19:10:10] <Enerccio> test connection to bishojo
[2008-11-21 19:10:12] <Enerccio> it should work now
[2008-11-21 19:10:12] <drakey> an indefinite hiatus is a virtual death!
[2008-11-21 19:10:14] <drakey> it does
[2008-11-21 19:10:23] <drakey> and thanks for emailing the right people
[2008-11-21 19:10:34] <Enerccio> np
[2008-11-21 19:10:47] <Enerccio> virtual death =/= death of project
[2008-11-21 19:10:49] <Enerccio> and moreover
[2008-11-21 19:10:58] <Enerccio> its now only construction for anyways
[2008-11-21 19:10:59] <Enerccio> no plot
[2008-11-21 19:11:02] <Enerccio> just settings
[2008-11-21 19:11:09] <Enerccio> next question?
[2008-11-21 19:11:36] <Kikered> What brought you two to the OELVN scene? =3
[2008-11-21 19:14:14] <Enerccio> brb
[2008-11-21 19:14:19] <Enerccio> L4D with moni
[2008-11-21 19:15:25] <Kikered> >(
[2008-11-21 19:16:26] <lordcloudx> I thought he'd do that
[2008-11-21 19:17:18] <drakey> where is moni? he should hit me with a question or two

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[2008-11-21 20:11:36] <Enerccio> okay back
[2008-11-21 20:13:15] <Enerccio> Kikered>	What brought you two to the OELVN scene? =3
[2008-11-21 20:13:23] <Enerccio> to be speaking truth....
[2008-11-21 20:13:26] <Enerccio> Hentai
[2008-11-21 20:13:31] <Enerccio> it was Xchange 3
[2008-11-21 20:13:39] <Enerccio> downloaded from free hentai webpage from rapid
[2008-11-21 20:14:01] -->| Monele (n=Pubman@ip-173-54.evhr.net) has joined #baka-trio
[2008-11-21 20:14:09] <Monele> *quick visit*
[2008-11-21 20:14:22] <Monele> Kikered : wanted to tell me something apparently?
[2008-11-21 20:14:23] <drakey> moni!
[2008-11-21 20:14:31] <Monele> hello :)
[2008-11-21 20:14:37] <Monele> not staying for long though
[2008-11-21 20:15:24] <Monele> is a voice chat planned tomorrow?
[2008-11-21 20:16:02] <drakey> haven't heard anything of the sort
[2008-11-21 20:16:24] <Kikered> Eh? I did? ^^;
[2008-11-21 20:16:36] <Enerccio> http://www.jastusa.com/webcomic/index.php?page=17&lang=
[2008-11-21 20:16:53] <Monele> Enerccio told me? ^^;
[2008-11-21 20:16:55] <Enerccio> oh it was drakey then
[2008-11-21 20:17:00] <Enerccio> <drakey>	where is moni? he should hit me with a question or two
[2008-11-21 20:17:14] <Monele> oh, drakey!
[2008-11-21 20:17:19] <Monele> you said "kik" ^^;
[2008-11-21 20:17:21] <Monele> or "ki"
[2008-11-21 20:17:29] <Monele> lol
[2008-11-21 20:17:46] <Monele> so, *prepares questions to hit with*
[2008-11-21 20:17:58] <Monele> but um... err... what kind of questions, really? ^^;
[2008-11-21 20:18:03] * drakey rubs hands together in anticipation
[2008-11-21 20:18:40] <drakey> anything about writing or our works
[2008-11-21 20:18:43] <Monele> *blinks*
[2008-11-21 20:18:46] <Monele> oh...
[2008-11-21 20:18:48] <Monele> lol
[2008-11-21 20:18:49] <Kikered> Or VN-making in general. =3
[2008-11-21 20:18:54] <drakey> indeed
[2008-11-21 20:18:55] <Enerccio> so ki
[2008-11-21 20:18:59] <Enerccio> another wuestion?
[2008-11-21 20:19:00] <Monele> how sudden ^^;
[2008-11-21 20:19:04] <drakey> you could also ask something personal, but i have the right to refuse, ahaha
[2008-11-21 20:19:19] <Monele> is it truth or dare night or something? :)
[2008-11-21 20:19:43] <drakey> no no, we're just taking turns asking our authors here questions about their projects and process
[2008-11-21 20:19:45] <Monele> *is confyoosed*
[2008-11-21 20:19:51] <Monele> oh... I see :)
[2008-11-21 20:19:54] <Monele> well....
[2008-11-21 20:19:55] <Monele> xD
[2008-11-21 20:20:04] <Monele> I'm taken by surprise!
[2008-11-21 20:20:08] <Monele> I'm not sure what to ask
[2008-11-21 20:20:27] <Monele> let me think a bit ^^;
[2008-11-21 20:20:43] <drakey> well, i'll probably still be the victim for tomorrow too, so you could just ask then
[2008-11-21 20:20:57] <Monele> you decide on a single target per night? ^^;
[2008-11-21 20:21:16] <Kikered> Or until it seems like the target doesn't have anything interesting to say any more
[2008-11-21 20:21:20] <drakey> well a single target at a time
[2008-11-21 20:21:20] <Monele> fufu :)
[2008-11-21 20:21:20] <Kikered> My turn was over pretty fast ;P
[2008-11-21 20:21:25] <Monele> ^^;;;
[2008-11-21 20:21:53] <Kikered> The question I asked enerccio goes for you, too, drake. =3
[2008-11-21 20:22:02] <drakey> i couldn't say
[2008-11-21 20:22:05] <drakey> it just happened?
[2008-11-21 20:22:11] <Monele> okay, easy one first : since I'm totally in the fog right now (just out of Left 4 Dead, I see dead people XD), can you quickly remind me the name of the game you already worked on?
[2008-11-21 20:22:18] <drakey> Starlit Sky
[2008-11-21 20:22:21] <Monele> (damn sudden lack of memory)
[2008-11-21 20:22:23] <Monele> right
[2008-11-21 20:22:26] <Monele> thanks, phew @_@
[2008-11-21 20:22:39] <Monele> so.......
[2008-11-21 20:22:53] <Monele> you did say that you had another project in progress, right?
[2008-11-21 20:23:01] <drakey> i do
[2008-11-21 20:23:08] <Monele> :3
[2008-11-21 20:23:10] <Enerccio> weolil
[2008-11-21 20:23:15] <Enerccio> *erolil
[2008-11-21 20:23:25] <drakey> noo
[2008-11-21 20:23:34] <Monele> mm... is it a KN? A VN?
[2008-11-21 20:23:39] <Kikered> Mirai Imouto? =3
[2008-11-21 20:23:50] <drakey> KN
[2008-11-21 20:23:59] <drakey> and no, not mirai imouto either!
[2008-11-21 20:24:04] <Enerccio> watashi no oniichan was ecchi desu ne
[2008-11-21 20:24:05] <Kikered> Hehehe
[2008-11-21 20:24:23] <Kikered> ...geh. Poor timing. ._.
[2008-11-21 20:24:26] <Monele> ecchi detta? :)
[2008-11-21 20:24:31] <Monele> or whatever's the past tense
[2008-11-21 20:24:47] <Monele> mmm... can we actually ask secret stuff and all? ^^;
[2008-11-21 20:24:57] <Monele> has anyone already asked about this? ^^; (dun wanna do repeats)
[2008-11-21 20:25:06] <drakey> if you want, you can
[2008-11-21 20:25:10] <drakey> it's not like i can't refuse
[2008-11-21 20:25:23] <Enerccio> deshita
[2008-11-21 20:25:31] <Enerccio> or datta
[2008-11-21 20:25:38] <Enerccio> depends, if polite or not
[2008-11-21 20:25:45] <Monele> well, I suppose you went with a whole other topic and setting?
[2008-11-21 20:25:50] <Monele> Enerccio : thank you :)
[2008-11-21 20:26:13] <drakey> not really, still features a witch for a heroine
[2008-11-21 20:26:15] <Kikered> So, enerccio - how did you come to trick yvan and drake into being minions? =3
[2008-11-21 20:26:17] <drakey> well, "witch"
[2008-11-21 20:26:20] <Monele> really? amusing ^^
[2008-11-21 20:26:30] <Enerccio> kikered>they followed me in blaze of my glory
[2008-11-21 20:26:37] <Kikered> Relatively, you're an old-timer, and things were generally one-man shows in those days.
[2008-11-21 20:26:48] <drakey> I got harrassed until I finally cracked!
[2008-11-21 20:27:10] <Enerccio> well actual story was
[2008-11-21 20:27:13] <Enerccio> I meet yvan at lsf
[2008-11-21 20:27:27] <Enerccio> saw his art in "post your art" thread, asked and we joined
[2008-11-21 20:27:36] <Enerccio> then drake came in april 2007
[2008-11-21 20:27:51] <Enerccio> he PMed me with some info about how to fix stuff in onscripter
[2008-11-21 20:27:54] <Enerccio> thats about it
[2008-11-21 20:28:06] <drakey> no, that's not about it!
[2008-11-21 20:28:11] <drakey> that was first contact
[2008-11-21 20:28:22] <drakey> and then we just chatted about crap, and i started talking to yvan
[2008-11-21 20:28:27] <Enerccio> well I have natural leader talents
[2008-11-21 20:28:35] <drakey> and every chance they got, they'd say something like "hey, you should join our group"
[2008-11-21 20:28:45] <drakey> and I'd replay with a "uhh... i dunno..."
[2008-11-21 20:28:54] <Enerccio> then we took over soa
[2008-11-21 20:28:55] <drakey> "Let me finish EV first or something"
[2008-11-21 20:29:11] <drakey> and sometime shortly after SS was finished, I officially joined?
[2008-11-21 20:29:20] <Enerccio> yeah when we took soa
[2008-11-21 20:29:23] <drakey> yeah
[2008-11-21 20:29:39] <Enerccio> been my slave... err underling since then
[2008-11-21 20:29:50] <drakey> After he read Starlit Sky, E was so starstruck by my talent he went asking for other works I've done
[2008-11-21 20:29:57] <drakey> he played the EV demo, but it wasn't enough to sate him
[2008-11-21 20:30:13] <drakey> so I mentioned in passing the existance of Araiah, but held out on showing it to him for about two weeks?
[2008-11-21 20:30:15] <Enerccio> I miss EV full version
[2008-11-21 20:30:22] <drakey> then I finally threw it to him, and he loved it and took it over
[2008-11-21 20:30:26] <Monele> *giggles*
[2008-11-21 20:30:29] <Monele> What's EV?
[2008-11-21 20:30:34] <Enerccio> evergreen valley
[2008-11-21 20:30:43] <Enerccio> it was hell of a story
[2008-11-21 20:30:44] <Enerccio> awesome
[2008-11-21 20:30:46] <Enerccio> and it had cool plot twist
[2008-11-21 20:30:54] <Enerccio> but the problem was
[2008-11-21 20:30:56] <drakey> no it really didn't
[2008-11-21 20:30:58] <Enerccio> that it has kids in game
[2008-11-21 20:31:04] <Enerccio> like 12 yo
[2008-11-21 20:31:24] <Monele> just... kids? ^^;
[2008-11-21 20:31:42] <Enerccio> or younger
[2008-11-21 20:31:47] <drakey> no, he's just poking fun at the awful but free sprites I used for the demo!
[2008-11-21 20:31:49] <Kikered> So what? No ero for you? =3
[2008-11-21 20:32:07] <Monele> haha ^^
[2008-11-21 20:32:15] <Enerccio> but actually, it really made me thinks so back then
[2008-11-21 20:32:35] <Enerccio> well
[2008-11-21 20:32:41] <Enerccio> there should be erolil
[2008-11-21 20:32:45] <Enerccio> but he changed that ;_;
[2008-11-21 20:32:58] <drakey> changed? it was never part of the plan!
[2008-11-21 20:33:08] <Enerccio> but there was her route in plans!
[2008-11-21 20:33:15] <Kikered> Ah, team dynamics. How enviable. ;P
[2008-11-21 20:33:33] <Monele> xDDD
[2008-11-21 20:33:49] <drakey> yeah, she has a route, but it was non-ero, non-renai
[2008-11-21 20:33:51] <Monele> it does seem to be going well ^^
[2008-11-21 20:33:58] <Enerccio> meh
[2008-11-21 20:34:01] <Enerccio> erolil would be hot
[2008-11-21 20:34:06] <Enerccio> and we could sell it on dlsite now
[2008-11-21 20:34:08] <Monele> xD
[2008-11-21 20:34:29] <Monele> drakey : are you  still in the planning stage for the new one?
[2008-11-21 20:34:41] <Enerccio> he is always planning
[2008-11-21 20:34:43] <Enerccio> then drop
[2008-11-21 20:34:46] <Enerccio> then another plan
[2008-11-21 20:34:47] <drakey> hey hey
[2008-11-21 20:34:48] <Enerccio> then drop
[2008-11-21 20:34:49] <drakey> araiah is nearly done!
[2008-11-21 20:34:59] <Enerccio> because you didnt have to do any writing
[2008-11-21 20:35:01] <Monele> well I won't say anything, I'm like that ^^;
[2008-11-21 20:35:14] <Enerccio> (maybe except small part)
[2008-11-21 20:36:18] <Enerccio> so basically its
[2008-11-21 20:36:23] <Enerccio> "I have an idea"
[2008-11-21 20:36:33] <Enerccio> month passes
[2008-11-21 20:36:44] <Enerccio> new idea
[2008-11-21 20:37:06] <Monele> it means he has renewed ideas :) That's pretty cool!
[2008-11-21 20:37:15] <Enerccio> its not
[2008-11-21 20:37:23] <Enerccio> it means he havent done anything in month
[2008-11-21 20:38:07] <Monele> ^^;
[2008-11-21 20:38:30] <Kikered> That doesn't quite explain why you decided to go with a group rather than winging it solo. =3
[2008-11-21 20:38:57] <Enerccio> solo fails
[2008-11-21 20:39:02] <Enerccio> unless you can draw
[2008-11-21 20:39:10] <drakey> yeah but at least i drop the ideas i won't finish before moving onto a new one, instead of putting them "on hold"
[2008-11-21 20:39:23] <Monele> drakey : hey! :(....
[2008-11-21 20:39:30] <Kikered> It's arguably more satisfying than outsourcing everything. ;)
[2008-11-21 20:39:43] <Enerccio> so? I dislike dropping ideas
[2008-11-21 20:39:53] <drakey> you should learn to let go
[2008-11-21 20:39:59] <drakey> and stop leading people on
[2008-11-21 20:40:06] <Enerccio> ho ho?
[2008-11-21 20:40:14] <Enerccio> like who else is going to lead us? you?
[2008-11-21 20:40:28] <drakey> leading on, not leading
[2008-11-21 20:40:31] <Enerccio> that would end with no work and everybody playing wii
[2008-11-21 20:41:23] <drakey> speaking of, come christmas, i'll probably be very busy with my wii
[2008-11-21 20:41:30] <drakey> Tales of Symphonia!
[2008-11-21 20:43:47] <Enerccio> meh fail
[2008-11-21 20:43:55] <Enerccio> well I will spend time with my L4D
[2008-11-21 20:44:55] <Monele> in any case :p
[2008-11-21 20:45:17] <Monele> so, drakey, this new witch project is solo?
[2008-11-21 20:45:26] <drakey> no no
[2008-11-21 20:45:58] <Kikered> the one that's due out relatively soon is. =3
[2008-11-21 20:46:16] <Monele> nyo~?
[2008-11-21 20:46:28] <Kikered> ...relative to how long it's been in the works.
[2008-11-21 20:47:17] <Monele> :)
[2008-11-21 20:47:48] <drakey> it isn't really that "new" since it's been in development for a while, even if there's been looooong breaks in the process
[2008-11-21 20:48:13] <drakey> but Araiah will be coming pretty soon, I can promise that

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[2008-11-22 12:14:18] <Monele> nyo
[2008-11-22 12:14:56] <drakey> 'llo moni
[2008-11-22 12:16:37] <Monele> still targetted I see? :)
[2008-11-22 12:16:47] <drakey> i suppose so
[2008-11-22 12:17:25] <Monele> eh :)
[2008-11-22 12:17:25] <drakey> i haven't been interrogated at all today though
[2008-11-22 12:17:35] <Monele> quiet before the storm :3
[2008-11-22 12:17:41] <Monele> or maybe there's not much else to ask anymore?
[2008-11-22 12:18:08] <Monele> actually, here's a new one : how do you come up with your stories?
[2008-11-22 12:19:18] <drakey> there's usually something that inspires me... something i've watched or read that starts the spark of an idea
[2008-11-22 12:19:32] <drakey> and then i just try and consider what I can do with it, and it goes from there really
[2008-11-22 12:20:01] <Monele> Mm;.. so you go from themes/visions?
[2008-11-22 12:20:14] <drakey> but nearly every one of my ideas has something as a primary inspiration
[2008-11-22 12:20:32] <drakey> Yeah, I suppose you can say that?
[2008-11-22 12:20:47] <drakey> It's mostly, "Hey, that made me think of a cool premise" and then working from there
[2008-11-22 12:20:50] <Monele> It seems that many writers make settings and characters to support a message. And I wonder how many want to write just to make a setting and characters come alive :)
[2008-11-22 12:21:03] <drakey> themes/motifs/etc... they usually come after
[2008-11-22 12:21:09] <drakey> I just work on a neat idea for a story first
[2008-11-22 12:22:29] <Monele> mmm, so it's rather like me then ô_o
[2008-11-22 12:24:03] <Monele> how do you deal with having to link things together though? That's always where I get stuck ^^;
[2008-11-22 12:24:16] <Monele> finding the glue to hold it all together :)
[2008-11-22 12:25:28] <drakey> i'm not too sure i have such a glue
[2008-11-22 12:27:25] <Monele> ah o_O
[2008-11-22 12:27:38] <Monele> well taking an example : how did it go for SS?
[2008-11-22 12:27:52] <Monele> what did it start with and how did it turn into a full story?
[2008-11-22 12:28:46] <drakey> well, it started with a story that was part of a sidequest from Wild Arms 3, actually, which served as the primary inspiration
[2008-11-22 12:30:06] <Monele> oh :)
[2008-11-22 12:30:13] <drakey> I borrowed names, motifs, themes, places, etc... and then I laid 'em all before me and said "now what do I want to put my own original twist on"
[2008-11-22 12:31:21] <drakey> As I considered my spins, the story just sorta began to take shape mostly, and so I had a pretty fair overall plan developed
[2008-11-22 12:31:29] <drakey> and all that was left was to write it and fill in the holes
[2008-11-22 12:31:33] <FIA|Else> I won't say WS is not inspired as well
[2008-11-22 12:33:07] <Monele> mm...
[2008-11-22 12:33:48] <drakey> If I could really explain the magic, I think I'd have a lot more done by now, ahaha
[2008-11-22 12:33:53] <Monele> so I guess it really is a matter of talent rather than organization ^^;
[2008-11-22 12:34:23] <Monele> yeah, well... there will always be "magic" (talent), but I thought there might be something more down to earth
[2008-11-22 12:34:26] <drakey> I'd say organization was a fair bit of it
[2008-11-22 12:34:28] <Monele> something I've been missing all along
[2008-11-22 12:34:52] <drakey> I had to plan it all out
[2008-11-22 12:35:00] <drakey> and what was planned stayed throughout
[2008-11-22 12:35:13] <drakey> most of the game is the original plan, very few additions and revisions, actually
[2008-11-22 12:36:04] <drakey> I'd consider SS to be the story I gave the most forethought
[2008-11-22 12:36:12] <drakey> and it /is/ the only one done thus far
[2008-11-22 12:36:18] <drakey> so, that may say something
[2008-11-22 12:37:01] <Monele> mmmm... that it's difficult? :)
[2008-11-22 12:37:19] <drakey> that too
[2008-11-22 12:37:40] <drakey> but i think there's a lot of importance in pre-writing and planning, and maybe it's not getting its due credit
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[2008-11-22 12:40:20] <Monele> what do you include in this planning phase?
[2008-11-22 12:40:25] <Monele> I mean...
[2008-11-22 12:40:42] <Monele> I consider obvious that you usually can't get into a word editor and just start going and end up with something coherent
[2008-11-22 12:40:52] <Monele> though I've tried both this and full planning before writing a single word
[2008-11-22 12:41:13] <Monele> but even planning, while necessary, is quite a blurry process for me
[2008-11-22 12:41:16] <drakey> well, SS was built as just blocks, scenes
[2008-11-22 12:41:27] <drakey> like this scene has this objective and this is what happens
[2008-11-22 12:41:34] <drakey> repeat for each scene until finished
[2008-11-22 12:41:44] <Monele> so you followed classic story/movie concepts,hm...
[2008-11-22 12:41:53] <Monele> yeah... I guess that's one think I never think of
[2008-11-22 12:41:56] <Monele> *thing
[2008-11-22 12:42:09] <Monele> I rarely think of such "goals"
[2008-11-22 12:42:10] <Monele> ^^;