* lordcloudx dons his press cap
<Kik|Work> Wait, what?
<lordcloudx> so, tell us. Was there any particular inspiration for the characters you used in that story?
<drakey> actually this is a pretty decent idea
* Retrieving #baka-trio modes...
<drakey> we should have everyone detail the inside story of their works
<Kik|Work> Here or in our releases?
<drakey> here
<lordcloudx> ya
* lordcloudx changes topic to ''Anthology: lordcloudx (story http://animerd2k2.net/untitled.htm), Samu-kun (done =3 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JUFQF3DK), Hime (story/possibly art), Jake (story/art), Kikered (story http://www.geocities.com/kikered/s_final.txt), Drake (story http://pastebin.com/f39661b52) -- Topic - Let's discuss/explain our stories! First up: Kikered'
<lordcloudx> there!
<Kik|Work> I'd say the main inspiration was this one episode of Inukami
<lordcloudx> ooh, go on
<Kik|Work> Lemme grab the name
<Kik|Work> Episode 12: The Dying Me's Song
<Kik|Work> It's about this girl whose family was "cursed" by a shinigami
<Kik|Work> And he would kill her on her 20th birthday unless someone fought the shinigami and won
<lordcloudx> I see
<lordcloudx> but in your story, there were only two parties.
<lordcloudx> so, is that it?
<Kik|Work> More or less. =P
<lordcloudx> :3
<lordcloudx> right...
<lordcloudx> next question
<lordcloudx> Could you describe the style you used/wanted to use/portray when you wrote your story?
<Kik|Work> I'm not a fan of verbosity or million-dollar words, so I try to keep the diction relatively simple.
<lordcloudx> respectable
<Kik|Work> I also aim to have the text flow simply and logically.
<lordcloudx> logicall, you say.
<lordcloudx> could you elaborate?
<Kik|Work> Um, I'm not quite sure, to be honest. ^^;
<lordcloudx> that's ok
<lordcloudx> take your time >)
<Kik|Work> I do know that it's jarring if I have to re-read portions to make sure I understand what is being said.
<Kik|Work> Albeit, a consequence of having events that can flow together logically is that it makes for predictability ^^;
<lordcloudx> I'd say...
<lordcloudx> it's good to have a bit of predictability
<lordcloudx> layers of predictability
<Kik|Work> Unfortunately, I'm not a skilled enough writer to play on predictability and really surprise the reader ^^;
<lordcloudx> hmm... it's not that hard. Like, you know that the girl is going to die in a certain story.
<drakey> well, there is a saturation point
<lordcloudx> That's the surface layer predictability
<drakey> where something become so predictable, that you actually predict the opposite will happen and it does
<Kik|Work> True. It's one thing to do it subtly and another to make it obvious.
<lordcloudx> how the girl die, you have a free hand with that
<lordcloudx> dies
<lordcloudx> you did add a good twist to your story
<lordcloudx> the shinigami part
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<lordcloudx> greetings, Hime
<lordcloudx> join in
* lordcloudx points to topic
<drakey> 'llo Hime!
<lordcloudx> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mK0EoxK8bw
<Hime> ooh
<drakey> also...
<Hime> What stories? :o
<lordcloudx> if you have any questions for Kikered, now's the time
<drakey> PRESSURE PRESSURE PRESSURE PRESSURE PRESSURE!
<drakey> Hime, where's your short story!?
<lordcloudx> the anthology project
* lordcloudx adds more pressure
<Hime> drakey, it's... look, a bird!
<drakey> ooh where?
<Hime> ...really, I've been *HORRIBLY* busy trying not to drop off courses and everything possible D:
<Hime> Our school has an insane limit of 4 absences per course
<lordcloudx> that's kinda strict
<Kik|Work> Aw
<Hime> And it doesn't matter whether you're skipping or on the verge of death, as long as it's 4 absences
<Hime> and then you drop off, bye bye :<
<drakey> well, health and education come first of course
<Hime> yes, unfortunetly
<Hime> I've been writing a few things, but no time for this one I'm afraid
<lordcloudx> then, join in on the discussion
<lordcloudx> maybe talking about our stories will help inspire you
<lordcloudx> awright, Kik
<lordcloudx> anything more to add?
<lordcloudx> because... I have more questions to bombard you with :)
<drakey> Question! Do we have to limit discussion to our anthology stories?
<lordcloudx> not at all
<drakey> I'd really like the hear the inside scoop on Quine too!
<lordcloudx> anything that provokes discussion would be good
<Kik|Work> Not really, regarding my writing "style." ^^;
<Kik|Work> ...!
<Kik|Work> D:
<drakey> you can't deny me this! it's easily one of my favorites!
<Kik|Work> *^^*
<lordcloudx> hey, no big deal
<lordcloudx> you'll get your chance for revenge when it's drake's turn
<drakey> exactly
<Kik|Work> (It'll also help me pass time at work, too =3 )
<drakey> I know you were paid to idle!
<Kik|Work> ..tch. I've been figured out.
<lordcloudx> actually, I've been wondering for quite some time
<lordcloudx> how come he can be so active in here while at work
<Kik|Work> I'm a relatively new hire, so they don't burden me too heavily most of the time. =3
<lordcloudx> Back to the discussion, joo! Did you have the same mindset about logical, concise stories when you made Quine?
<lordcloudx> because I notice you used a lot more adjectives and descriptive text.
<Kik|Work> Did I? ^^;
<lordcloudx> yes
<lordcloudx> like the little side comments
<Kik|Work> I think generally, yes.
<Kik|Work> I kinda feel that narration is a way to reflect the main character's mindset
<lordcloudx> also, have you played SO2!
<lordcloudx> !?
<lordcloudx> :)
<Kik|Work> How he thinks, what he notices, etc.
<Kik|Work> I've played it but haven't finished it ^^;
<Kik|Work> So I think it's fine to change things up according to the narrator.
<lordcloudx> your turn, drakey. Grill im
<drakey> *cracks knuckles*
<Kik|Work> Uh oh. Such grilling will only show how much lack of thought there was...
<drakey> so how did you stumble upon this little idea anyway?
<Kik|Work> And will sully his jaded image of it. ^^;
<Kik|Work> I kinda felt it'd be neat to make a metagame. ^^;
<Kik|Work> Originally wanted it to be something people looking to enter the VN scene to learn from.
<Kik|Work> But it ended up being weirdness plus side info marginally relevant to VN making ^^;
<lordcloudx> lies!
<Kik|Work> It's significantly scaled down from a team management sim I originally wanted to try
<lordcloudx> eh? You wanted to make like monel-eh?
<Kik|Work> So it ended up being a campy, rushed mess. ^^;
<Kik|Work> Guess so. I don't recall if this is prior to MagBou or not =3
<drakey> rushed mess my ass
<drakey> it's gold
<Kik|Work> Ahaha... I'm glad you think so ^^
<Kik|Work> I'd like to come back and try to make what I originally wanted someday
<lordcloudx> that's nice
<lordcloudx> your art skills have also improved since then
<Kik|Work> Yay school? =3
<lordcloudx> you took a class?
<lordcloudx> h4rdc0r3!
<Kik|Work> Nope. But I doodled during class. >)
<lordcloudx> oh
<lordcloudx> haha
<Kik|Work> Pretty much every day.
<drakey> so what was the Kikumi story about?
<drakey> the one that got canned
<lordcloudx> :P
<Kik|Work> =3
<lordcloudx> he's typing... yeah... he's definitely typing.
<drakey> he better be!
<drakey> *cracks knuckles again, this time intimidatingly(
<Kik|Work> ...I don't remember too much, to be honest. ;P
<lordcloudx> cop-out!
<drakey> lies! it was only two years ago wasn't it?!
<Kik|Work> At least for the sim, I was thinking she'd be a skeptical, ball-busting editor. =3
<lordcloudx> tsundere?
<Kik|Work> Two years is two too long. ;P
<drakey> true, but you couldn't have forgotten such a big part of your life!
<Kik|Work> =3
<drakey> I still remember every planned detail of EV, and that's long since dead
<lordcloudx> Ok... "You don't need a reason to help people."
<Kik|Work> She's something nebulous between a cameo and an actual character. ._.;
<lordcloudx> where'd you lift that from?
<Kik|Work> FFIX =3
<Kik|Work> Zidane's quote
<lordcloudx> now I remember
<lordcloudx> Zidane ain't no VN protagonist!
<Kik|Work> Leon indulges in otaku activites like playing games though. ;P
<lordcloudx> jez fyn
<drakey> so how did the process of writing it treat ya?
<lordcloudx> ah! Good one
<drakey> the thread says you started sometime in August, but the release was March... that's some time for a short story
<Kik|Work> Not too kindly, apparently. =3
<Kik|Work> It's kinda two steps forward and one back
<Kik|Work> Sometimes I'd get a burst where I get a relatively decent amount of lines done.
<Kik|Work> And then I'd read back on what I've got and tweak it a little here and there
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<Kik|Work> Instead of pushing forward.
<Kik|Work> Hi, Ren
<lordcloudx> greetings, REn
<lordcloudx> join in
<xRENx> Hello :3
<lordcloudx> we're grillin Kikered
<xRENx> grilling?
<lordcloudx> asking him about the stories he's written
<Kik|Work> And it repeats and eventually I'd have enough that almost all my time is spent reviewing and tweaking.
<xRENx> Oh, afraid I can't.
<lordcloudx> we thought we could use some serious discussion in here
<xRENx> I didn't play anything besides Quine, from him.
<drakey> Sensei!
<lordcloudx> that's awright
<xRENx> Disciple, the silent one!
<lordcloudx> Quine is included in the discussion
<lordcloudx> he's talkin about it now
<xRENx> Oh.
<Kik|Work> I was shooting to get it done at the start of a NaNo, so I rushed, and it really shows. ^^;
<drakey> come on, pitch him a question, sensei!
<drakey> it does not, it's still awesome and full of charm as yet unrivaled
<Kik|Work> Thought it'd be a fun "encouragement" thing
<xRENx> Oh, damn, I have to go, sorry.
<Kik|Work> Ahaha ^^;
<lordcloudx> later, Ren
<xRENx> See you!
<Kik|Work> Later, Ren
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<drakey> she disappeared, and fast
<lordcloudx> indeed =3
<Kik|Work> For good reason ;)
<drakey> hahahaha
<drakey> oh slashdot, you're hilarious
<Kik|Work> Hm?
<drakey> Article: Why the Widening Gender Gap In Computer Science?
<drakey> first comment: You guys are being creepy. Girls don't like creepy dudes leering at them all the time.
<drakey> some comment further down the page: tits || gtfo
<Kik|Work> Hahaha
<lordcloudx> :)
<Kik|Work> XD
<lordcloudx> okie, simple question
<lordcloudx> most ppl(creators) don't like the time delay when the text displays
<lordcloudx> how come you used it?
<lordcloudx> denzil(for example) used instantly displaying text
<lordcloudx> That I didn't like, but he won't change his mind >(
<drakey> (more slashdot hilarity:
<drakey> To deal with the cold, hard logic of computers all day, you need to be comfortable with such an unemotional, machine-like environment. As an IT worker, I can tell you firsthand that many women aren't comfortable in situations like that. Far too many ex-girlfriends of mine have told me I'm "too much like a robot." To which I reply, "a sex robot?" And they say no. :-(
<drakey> )
<Kik|Work> ( XD )
<lordcloudx> answer?
<lordcloudx> :)
<Enerccio> man
<Kik|Work> Hm... I think it kinda helps the text more... "conversational" as per Leon's narration?
<Enerccio> L4D is awesome
<lordcloudx> I agree
<Kik|Work> With spoken converstaion, timing helps with punch lines and side comments and such.
<Kik|Work> *conversation
<lordcloudx> and somehow, there's some kinda aesthetic appeal to a slower than instant text-speed for me.
<Kik|Work> Indeed. It isn't too inconvenient for the user to click once to get it all if they want it that way, too.
<drakey> yes it is
<lordcloudx> ehe! A dissenter
<drakey> are you encouraging RSI?!
<lordcloudx> not at all
<lordcloudx> you can use enter
<lordcloudx> :P
<drakey> no no cloud, I don't dissent
<drakey> however, I'm gonna take the middle ground here
<Kik|Work> Pah. They can change the settings if they want to that badly. =3
<lordcloudx> agreed
<drakey> exactly so
<drakey> I hate it when games set it to instant, and I hate it when the next highest speed is too slow
<Kik|Work> Besides, if gamers don't have RSI yet, they're bound for it anyway. ;P
<lordcloudx> hah! RSI
<lordcloudx> is for the weak
<lordcloudx> play with handgrips everyday, son
<lordcloudx> you'll never have to worry about RSI evah!
<lordcloudx> hah! hah! hah!
<lordcloudx> got anything else to ask im, drakey?
<drakey> (for the record, I prefer near-instant speeds... I need just enough to have it typed out, but I still need it fast cuz I hate waiting)
<lordcloudx> it can be daunting
<drakey> I'd have to replay the game to hit him with any other questions
<lordcloudx> with tsukihime sized vns
<drakey> I think I'm spent
<lordcloudx> :)
<lordcloudx> awright
<lordcloudx> here's a semi-tough one
<lordcloudx> Can you describe Solangel's appearance in your mind as accurately as possible?
<lordcloudx> is she like Kamio Misuzu with green hair?
<lordcloudx> :D
<Kik|Work> Ahaha, I'm not quite sure. =3
<drakey> what color /is/ her hair? the sprites were b&w, weren't they?!
<lordcloudx> yep
<lordcloudx> here eyes are green
<Kik|Work> I was thinking silver for hair color.
<lordcloudx> her
<lordcloudx> Silver...
<lordcloudx> I see, I see
<lordcloudx> and her skin would be pale
<lordcloudx> >) I can see it!
<Kik|Work> Indeed. Relatively.
<Kik|Work> =3
<lordcloudx> what about teh hairstyle? Is it Haruhi-esque?
<Kik|Work> I think I tried blue when I was coloring, saw how terrible it was, and decided that I failed at coloring. =3
<drakey> so why color the eyes?
<Enerccio> oh drake
<Enerccio> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnPpaJ8w5Kk&feature=related
<Kik|Work> Because I thought I could do eyes after seeing how they did it in the Canvas 2 anime ._.
<lordcloudx> hmm... I should download the opening theme for that
<lordcloudx> it's kinda nice
<drakey> ...?
<drakey> I-I don't get it
<lordcloudx> that's one dramatic ad
<Enerccio> isn't that sad?
<lordcloudx> no, it's just an ad
<drakey> but I see references to /b/ so I probably shouldn't
<Kik|Work> For hairstyle, I was originally shooting for something like the heroine of Panzer Dragoon Orta. =3
<Kik|Work> http://shinforce.com/xbox/reviews/PanzerDragoonOrta/wpd-PDO-1024.jpg
<lordcloudx> yah, she's pretty
<Enerccio> it was in baww thread
<Enerccio> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un2slS7q5Zw&watch_response
<Enerccio> so we finished one campaign with monele
<Enerccio> took us 2 hour
<Enerccio> but it was cool
<Kik|Work> She also had an awesome hat for the intro level ^^
<lordcloudx> btw
<lordcloudx> sequel?
<lordcloudx> >)
<lordcloudx> don't touch the original, j00
<lordcloudx> continue the story
<Kik|Work> =3
<lordcloudx> also, I've gathered enough info from you to make sum fanart
<lordcloudx> next question!
<lordcloudx> Out of your works, which one is your favourite? Why?
<lordcloudx> (including unfinished ones, of course)
<Kik|Work> Eh? Wha?
<Kik|Work> !!
<Kik|Work> =O
<Kik|Work> Works as in...?
<Hime> awww
<Kik|Work> Anything I've seen, read, etc?
<Kik|Work> From a particular medium?
<drakey> your own, i imagine
<lordcloudx> yup
<Kik|Work> Ohh. I missed the first "your" ^^;
<lordcloudx> hee hee http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6594/harunyanee8.jpg
<Kik|Work> I probably liked them to some degree to start working on them ^^;
<lordcloudx> since you seem intent on dodging the question, what did you like about em?
<lordcloudx> >)
<Kik|Work> =3
<Kik|Work> I think my current project "Swan Song" may be my favorite for the time being. =3
<lordcloudx> why?
<drakey> It isn't really a swan song is it?
<Kik|Work> For Quine, I liked the idea of a metagame. ^^;
<lordcloudx> that line seems familiar
<Kik|Work> Oh no, not for me. =3
<Kik|Work> I still have the original Quine to realize!
<lordcloudx> oh well, gtg soon
<lordcloudx> guess we can change targets after this session
<lordcloudx> I don't think anyone else has anything to ask
<drakey> we should have a designated target per day
<Kik|Work> It's a working title, but it could pass for an actual one if I can't think of anything better ._.
<lordcloudx> yah
<lordcloudx> unless FIA wants to ask something
<Kik|Work> Whew. =3
<lordcloudx> now zen...
<lordcloudx> anything else you wish to add?
<lordcloudx> (question stolen from m12's dlsite interviews)
<drakey> oh that's right!
<drakey> you got interviewed!
<lordcloudx> yah
<lordcloudx> me, DaFool and Blue Lemma
<Kik|Work> !!
<lordcloudx> I guess m12 just picked whoeva came to mind
<Kik|Work> What?
<Kik|Work> Huh?
<Kik|Work> Ah
<drakey> not mikey?
<lordcloudx> yah
<lordcloudx> hai, kore http://eng.dlsite.com/circle/report/=/report/0012
<drakey> when was this, btw?
<lordcloudx> eh... lemme check
<Enerccio> 'Anthology: lordcloudx (story http://animerd2k2.net/untitled.htm), Samu-kun (done =3 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JUFQF3DK), Hime (story/possibly art), Jake (story/art), Kikered (story http://www.geocities.com/kikered/s_final.txt), Drake (story http://pastebin.com/f39661b52) -- Topic - Let's discuss/explain our stories! First up: Kikered
<lordcloudx> Mar 31, 2008
<Enerccio> First up: Kikered
<Enerccio> I am waiting
<lordcloudx> where've you been, Enerccio
<drakey> you've not been paying attention you mean
<Enerccio> I have been in L4D
<Enerccio> with monele
<Enerccio> it was awesome
<lordcloudx> very nice
<lordcloudx> So, the pm from M12 came last March 31
<drakey> (eh, right at the end of nano)
<lordcloudx> oh... wait
<lordcloudx> that's not right
<drakey> the article reads jan 17
<lordcloudx> Jan 17
<lordcloudx> yeah
<lordcloudx> I'm the most talkative out of the three of us interviewed
<drakey> naturally, you must be the most interesting
<lordcloudx> >) I sure am!
<lordcloudx> ahahahaha!
<Kik|Work> =3
<lordcloudx> hee! I think we did a good job today
<lordcloudx> >)
<lordcloudx> gtg
<lordcloudx> later, ppl
<lordcloudx> thanks for sharing with us, tetris kid
<lordcloudx> I beat you at pure!
<lordcloudx> :P
<Kik|Work> =(